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NHG hand against rdcrsn
spectrefax (United States) 1,081 Posts. Joined 01-02-2007.
11-15-2009 1:46 AM

Final table bubble and one guy sitting at about 2 big blinds at the other table. Rdcrsn hasn't been 3 betting much since he hasnt really had the chips to do so. A few hands prior to this he chipped up nicely. Whats your play and why?

PokerStars Game #35375222670: Tournament #219011046, $150+$12 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XX (3000/6000) - 2009/11/15 2:20:08 ET
Table '219011046 12' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 4: spectrefax (160563 in chips)
Seat 5: mertzdog (145614 in chips)
Seat 6: rdcrsn (258760 in chips)
Seat 8: jaytheo40 (116581 in chips)
Seat 9: Boquerk (270934 in chips)
spectrefax: posts the ante 600
mertzdog: posts the ante 600
rdcrsn: posts the ante 600
jaytheo40: posts the ante 600
Boquerk: posts the ante 600
mertzdog: posts small blind 3000
rdcrsn: posts big blind 6000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to spectrefax [Jh Ad]
jaytheo40: folds
Boquerk: folds
spectrefax: raises 10000 to 16000
mertzdog: folds
rdcrsn: raises 110000 to 126000
spectrefax: ???

 
 
 

neverbluff67 (United Kingdom) 107 Posts. Joined 01-31-2008.
11-15-2009 8:45 AM - In reply to

interested what others have to say about this hand.

pretty sure i snap get it in

why is he trying to make his hand look stronger? and not inducing a 4bet

with effectively 25bb surely he can/should shove really wide here


RoyalCrusher (United States) 4,049 Posts. Joined 02-20-2006.
11-15-2009 10:27 AM - In reply to

i call


Whatshoulditbe (United States) 1,282 Posts. Joined 04-27-2007.
11-15-2009 10:49 AM - In reply to

 highly doubt i'm folding. this is 5handed FT bubble of NHG and you're on the button, no?


Also, is rdcrsn really opening up the lobby, looking for a short stack, then playing heaps differently b/c of this? idk, only ask cus i personally never open the lobby to look for things like this.

Vekked (Canada) 303 Posts. Joined 04-13-2008.
11-15-2009 11:05 AM - In reply to

spectrefax: 
I figured that since he is a very competent reg, that he obviously realizes there is an ultra shorty on the other table and would be able to take advantage of that. And that he would 3bet small looking for a 4bet shove with his great hands and that his range may be wider due to the bubble situation. Maybe I leveled myself.


Sounds solid to me... I dunno but I'm not sure I like the idea of raise/folding our entire range but like AQ/99+ on the button to a good reg. Maybe he is actually that nitty? Ionno.

jordankickz (United States) 367 Posts. Joined 10-06-2006.
11-15-2009 11:54 AM - In reply to

 This is really close.  I think we are doing pretty good vs his range and its for sure +cev to call but may be -$ev with somebody have 2 big blinds left.


doubledave22 (United States) 4,430 Posts. Joined 01-22-2006.
11-15-2009 12:23 PM - In reply to
66

jordankickz: 

 This is really close.  I think we are doing pretty good vs his range and its for sure +cev to call but may be -$ev with somebody have 2 big blinds left.



bingo mcbango

MarleyGroup (United States) 290 Posts. Joined 09-15-2009.
11-15-2009 12:40 PM - In reply to

 LOL at everyone saying this is an insta fold.  Yall like folding to ranges you are way ahead of?  Snap this shit bro play to win.


Gags30 (United States) 4,393 Posts. Joined 08-17-2007.
11-15-2009 1:27 PM - In reply to
55

you guys really think rdcrsn sucks at poker, huh


i call

Davidp18 (United States) 185 Posts. Joined 02-24-2006.
11-15-2009 1:27 PM - In reply to

Call and its not even close.  Only thing that might make it close is icm, but i doubt its -$ev.  But i think icm in mtts is fairly flawed anyway since it doesnt factor in a lot of stuff such as flexibility and all the extra power a big stack gives to a good player, but thats a different discussion.  But anyway, u have his range crushed, so call.

By folding, ur basically saying u think rdcrsn is awful.


CalBandGreat (United States) 1,641 Posts. Joined 12-17-2006.
11-15-2009 2:08 PM - In reply to

Cmoney3: 

 this hand is all about how rdcrsn perceives the OP. if u are random to him he has a tight range if u are an aggro reg or spew monkey he is shoving wider. HOW DOES HE PERCEIVE YOU OP?



    I think it is the opposite of this because rdcrsn is more likely to put pressure on a random with a marginal hand, than he is against a reg.  A reg knows what an incredibly great re-steal spot this is because of the guy with 2 bb's, so the reg isn't opening light in this case and rdcrsn knows that.  I think it is very clear that this is a +cEV call (unless like Gag says rdcrsn is a terrible, which is my limited experience with him is very far from the case), the only question is whether it is +$EV, without running the numbers my gut says that it is +$EV. 

spectrefax (United States) 1,081 Posts. Joined 01-02-2007.
11-15-2009 3:08 PM - In reply to

Cmoney3: 

 this hand is all about how rdcrsn perceives the OP. if u are random to him he has a tight range if u are an aggro reg or spew monkey he is shoving wider. HOW DOES HE PERCEIVE YOU OP?



This is what honestly stumped me during the actual hand as I assume most regulars just see me as a random. My image at the time was fairly solid I assume as he and I only played a handful together throughout the tourney up to this point. I honestly expect him (or any HS reg) to put more pressure on a random then he would a reg he plays every day. Especially given the bubble situation.
 
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