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No idea what to do here...river spot? or badly played turn? ugh
iTakeUALLin (United States) 308 Posts. Joined 06-16-2006.
11-03-2009 3:08 PM

 Like 5 hands in...

Full Tilt Poker Game #15772390853: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (115642655), Table 5 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:47:19 ET - 2009/11/03
Seat 1: shadowheads (2,940)
Seat 2: seminolebrave (1,455)
Seat 4: shadosys (1,500)
Seat 5: NorelMars (1,500)
Seat 6: AAribeiro (1,500)
Seat 7: iTakeUALLin (3,165)
Seat 8: Slim02 (1,440)
Seat 9: Patrice Maddox (1,500)
shadosys posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to iTakeUALLin [Kh Qc]
NorelMars folds
AAribeiro folds
iTakeUALLin raises to 90
Slim02 folds
Patrice Maddox folds
shadowheads calls 90
seminolebrave folds
shadosys folds
*** FLOP *** [Qd Qs 3d]
iTakeUALLin bets 90
shadowheads calls 90
*** TURN *** [Qd Qs 3d] [Ac]
iTakeUALLin has 15 seconds left to act
iTakeUALLin bets 180
shadowheads raises to 360
iTakeUALLin has 15 seconds left to act
iTakeUALLin raises to 900
shadowheads calls 540
*** RIVER *** [Qd Qs 3d Ac] [Ad]

Thanks for input

 
 
 

Goldenad (United States) 1,479 Posts. Joined 06-12-2006.
11-03-2009 3:11 PM - In reply to

 you can start by folding preflop. now i check/call


coolhandkev (United States) 997 Posts. Joined 08-27-2007.
11-03-2009 3:12 PM - In reply to

No point in betting anymore.  In my opinion check/call > check/fold.


ABorges (Portugal) 247 Posts. Joined 07-15-2008.
11-03-2009 3:23 PM - In reply to

Seems like he has doubled up already, can't you find out how with instant HH? In a vacuum I guess I c/f... by the river I give him a range of a random queen, a random ace, 33 and AQ. You're ahead of 33 and chop with the last queen, but there are still 2 aces left on the deck which make it more likely he's holding one. If you check he pretty much only bets when he has the ace. I see no value in betting or c/c'ing to be honest... check and hope he checks back so you can win at least chop, fold if he bets.  


HoldemJunkie (United States) 275 Posts. Joined 07-19-2007.
11-03-2009 3:36 PM - In reply to

At this level I have played quite a bit. I see people still just calling boards like this even with flush draw out there. It is a very tough hand but like everyone else is saying I would just check/call.

Let us know what happened.


iTakeUALLin (United States) 308 Posts. Joined 06-16-2006.
11-03-2009 6:18 PM - In reply to

ABorges: 

Seems like he has doubled up already, can't you find out how with instant HH?



here's the hand he doubled up on, it was actually the hand right before...

Full Tilt Poker Game #15772363310: $10 + $1 Sit & Go (115642655), Table 5 - 15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:46:01 ET - 2009/11/03
Seat 1: shadowheads (1,485)
Seat 2: seminolebrave (1,470)
Seat 3: Lionheart310 (1,440)
Seat 5: NorelMars (1,500)
Seat 6: AAribeiro (1,500)
Seat 7: iTakeUALLin (3,165)
Seat 8: Slim02 (1,440)
Seat 9: Patrice Maddox (1,500)
seminolebrave posts the small blind of 15
Lionheart310 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to iTakeUALLin [5c 6s]
NorelMars folds
AAribeiro folds
iTakeUALLin folds
Slim02 folds
Patrice Maddox folds
shadowheads raises to 90
seminolebrave folds
Lionheart310 calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Qs 3h 9h]
Lionheart310 checks
shadowheads bets 195
Lionheart310 calls 195
*** TURN *** [Qs 3h 9h] [Jh]
Lionheart310 checks
shadowheads checks
*** RIVER *** [Qs 3h 9h Jh] [Qc]
Lionheart310 has 15 seconds left to act
Lionheart310 bets 1,155, and is all in
shadowheads calls 1,155
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Lionheart310 shows [6c Ah] a pair of Queens
shadowheads shows [8s 8c] two pair, Queens and Eights
shadowheads wins the pot (2,895) with two pair, Queens and Eights
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2,895 | Rake 0
Board: [Qs 3h 9h Jh Qc]
Seat 1: shadowheads (button) showed [8s 8c] and won (2,895) with two pair, Queens and Eights
Seat 2: seminolebrave (small blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 3: Lionheart310 (big blind) showed [6c Ah] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 5: NorelMars didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: AAribeiro didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: iTakeUALLin didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: Slim02 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: Patrice Maddox didn't bet (folded)


ABorges (Portugal) 247 Posts. Joined 07-15-2008.
11-03-2009 6:51 PM - In reply to

lol okay that's very relevant. Did you remember to check that while playing the hand or did you do it just now?

Still I'm not sure he's capable of betting worse on the river, that hand doesn't show a tendency to run big bluffs or thin value bets. Just shows he's a station. The way he played the previous hand also makes me think he would have played a random ace exactly the way he did... IDK, I think it's closer now but I still check with the intention of folding unless the bet is stupidly small. Turn play is fine BTW in answer to thread title.


iTakeUALLin (United States) 308 Posts. Joined 06-16-2006.
11-03-2009 7:58 PM - In reply to

yeah i don't know that previous hand is kinda weird, but i didn't even check it til after the fact.  obviously i wasn't expecting that river at all, but basically i just decided that i'd call any reasonable bet, but was folding to a shove...i checked and he insta shoved...
 
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