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I got a scoop for all of you: Most top players have multiple accounts so get over it. My wife plays 25/50 nl, and sometimes when shes feeling good, even higher.My brother has won tournaments. Its a fact of life so dont even think of bashing JJ for this. When there are big tourneys one of the beauties of online play is that you can enter more then one account. The chance of ending at the same table with yourself is very very unlikely. So if you must, flame away, but wake up and smell the coffee.
Thor
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I think you can make a case for both sides. I tend to agree with Thor though. I dont have more than 200$ in any acct, so like most I can barely play 1 lol. I do agree with Thor however and I don't care if he played with 5 accts, it is still AMAZING!!
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I got 6 accounts on pokerstars.net
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Shaniac Jr. is unconvinced.
You mean, your wife, your brother and you all sometimes play in the same tournament?
The problem is that it creates an environment where people feel they
will have to play multiple accounts just to keep up. Maybe that's not a
problem. Shaniac Jr. needs to think more on the issue, but like Gank,
Shaniac Jr would like to live in a kindler gentler poker world, where
people could just sit back light a bone and play poker without worrying
how badly you are getting screwed by not enjoying the edges that others
are.
However, and this much will never be disputed, if Shaniac Jr and
shaniac were ever able to play in the same tournament at the same time,
the rest of the field would be at a significant disadvantage, so
consider how that would make you feel.
Also, could someone please explain whatever story/controversy this post
comes from? JJ won the 215 on Party but it was under another account (?)
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How can anyone claim as entering a tournament on more than one account as ethical? Hell, how could anyone even consider it legal? If pros HAVE multiple accounts, fine. But if they play in the same tournament or play at the same table, it's completely wrong.
And If a lot of the top pros do that, then a lot of top pros are cheats
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If a lot of the top pros do that, then a lot of top pros are cheats
I think I would agree here
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Thanks shaniac jr, I was just going to ask the same question.. what sparked this discussion.
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Thor's post brings up 2 issues, one is obvious--that lots and lots of
people play every big tournament on multiple accounts and we kind of
have to accept it--and the other thor wants us to gloss over, that it's
fine and ethical.
Shaniac Jr is curious if someone smart out there can do a hard stats
analysis of the kind of edge a good MTT player could gain by entering
2, 3 etc accounts into every major tournament. Also what such practices
would do to bankroll requirements.
Shaniac Jr. would never come out and "bash" anyone for playing multiple
accounts and winning on one of them, but doesn't think it's something
that we have to blindly accept, the way thor makes it out. Shaniac Jr's
hunch is that people who have the means to play multiple accounts in an
MTT are at a significant advantage over those who take the
old-fashioned route, and thinks perhaps we are justified in questioning
the ethics of multiplayering.
Agaian, Shaniac Jr agrees with thor's original point, that a reality
check is in order for people who are shocked that this goes on, but
disagrees it is something we are obligated to accept.
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When there are big tourneys one of the beauties of online play is that you can enter more then one account
wow,grt buddy now you need two accounts to beat this game .online poker is not gonna be the same soon i guess.
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why are u referring to ur self in 3rd person?
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Well, you have stated that it is done a lot and that you do it, but you have not said why it is right or justifiable. Where do you draw the line I wonder? Rules are that it is 1 person to a tournament. I mean, if you get placed at the same table, are you simply going to pretend you aren't there? Like playing yourself in chess right? Gimme a break. I am more than willing to hear why you think it isn't wrong, but I don't see any justifiable reason.
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One last thought on this issue: If you, ane bel0wabove and everyone
else saying 'hands off JJ' want us to accept the fact that everyone
plays on multiple accounts, then you have to be willing to affirm to
the rest of the poker public that this practice is just what it looks
like: He who has the most/best resources, wins. If you have 3 accounts,
you are going to win more often than someone on one account. Fine. But
let's just say that's what it is--a challenge to get as many accounts
going to get the maximum edge, just like people do their best to get
the maximum edge with poketracker, pokerace, and whatever else.
To Shaniac Jr, it's still kind of lame. Like the corporatization of
online poker MTTs. Golden Arches are on the way, Ukraine's 001-2020 in
every tournament. Death of the small businessman. Goodbye Sunday dreams.
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Ok some answers to questions im getting asked.
1: I do not think there is alot of colluding and cheating in cash games or I can at least safely say I nor any of my friends do it and if others are doing it then they suck at it from what I can see.
2: If at same table as yourself then you have a friend takeover (ive never seen it happen)
3:I do not do this in tourneys because I cant play all those tables at the same time(I do often enter under a different name as I like to be anonomous alot)
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Shaniac Jr's hunch is that people who have the means to play multiple accounts in an MTT are at a significant advantage over those who take the old-fashioned route, and thinks perhaps we are justified in questioning the ethics of multiplayering.
Of coure they have a Huge advantage as far as hoe agressive you can play knowing you're still in w/ 3 other accts. Major Edge here in smaller mtts
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