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I got a scoop for all of you: Most top players have multiple accounts so get over it. My wife plays 25/50 nl, and sometimes when shes feeling good, even higher.My brother has won tournaments. Its a fact of life so dont even think of bashing JJ for this. When there are big tourneys one of the beauties of online play is that you can enter more then one account. The chance of ending at the same table with yourself is very very unlikely. So if you must, flame away, but wake up and smell the coffee.
Thor
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supermoves, he was also in these tournies. He was not at a bar. There is no need for me to say anything else. Obviously the hole keeps getting deeper and more excuses are made. I would rather call someone a liar than to be a fool myself.
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SHOOT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER!! LoL.
BTW, I usually dont multi table on my laptop at a bar while im getting blasted hitting on 43 year old biker chicks.
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i guess the tournament activite for JJ's grandma says it all, she spend an awful amount of time at his house playing tourneys, by what willis has on her account , she actually multitabled 3 tourney on jan2, well done on that lie JJ, from the looks of that report grammy is spending every night playing at your house with ya. honestly JJ , why not just come out and say the truth, you saw a chance to play tourneys with multiple accounts cause you are confident you can make more money doing it. you do not care whether itis ethically okay or not.
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YES!
Now instead of beating somebody once.... we get to try to beat them 2 or 3 times!! That f-ing rules! All hail to those with more money who buy-in 3 seats to the same tourney!
I guess we know why the STARS tourney jumped over 5500 players all of a sudden from 4k... lots of players doubling and tripling up... their only limitation is how many lap tops or CPU's they have in front of them....
F- multi tabling.... Hail multi-computering!
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After alot of thought on the subject, I am going to rethink my position on the ethics of multiple entries
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Supermoves also believes in the EAster Bunny.
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Saying that most top players play with multiple account is wrong. Quite a few does it, unfortunately, but not the majority. Those who mainly do it (and it has always been this way with cheating in poker) is those who are not very successful and thus start to look for unethical ways to do it. The good top players make so much cash without cheating, that they don't find the expected EV-increase worth losing their dignity.
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Time Out....are you saying there is no easter bunny??
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Tons of baseball players used steriods. I guess one of the beauties of
baseball is that if you wanted to, you could inject yourself with
chemicals to gain an advantage. Guess the players that didn't feel
like cheating and hurting themselves should have just woken up and
smelt the coffee, huh?
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GAMBLEAB, I respect you as a poker player and you seem like a great guy from the times I have seen you on TV... but dude, you are way off. That is a TERRIBLE analogy of JJ and Steroids.
I want to do this briefly, but Baseball players are only cheating records.. NOT MONEY. We are talking about $140,000 here.. which is a TON of money even to you Aaron. Sammy Sosa has a contract to play for $8 mill maybe, he gets paid the same that season if he uses them or not. Of course it may mean a bigger contract later on, but he is NOT stealing money from other players. I am offended by the analogy, that is all.
PS - BARRY BONDS is GOD
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Not that it's quite at the same level, money-wise, but my roommate and I will play in $10 mtts in the same room, and the one time we ended up at the same table, I took my laptop to the bathroom and finished on the shitter.
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I think you are mistaken. If a baseball player has a great year, he can sit out and force a renegotiation. How many times has a guy had one season where he hit 40 homeruns, and every other year before and after has 20 max? And based on that one good year, he negotiated a contract for a ton of cash, which then means that the team has LESS money to pay other players (unless they are the yankees and don't care about the cap).
But, I wasn't talking about it in that sense. I was just saying that good players shouldn't feel like they have to bend the rules just because other people are bending the rules. Bending the rules is WRONG and excuses shouldn't be made. People like me, Siro, ect shouldn't be made to feel like WE are morons because we choose not to bend the rules.
This, again, is why I choose many weeks to not play the big sunday tournaments online (and the weekday party specials). I choose not to put multiple accounts into the tournament, and I know that there are many many many good players who see nothing wrong with it, and do it every day. This leads to a situation that is huge -EV for me, so I choose to take spots elsewhere.
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Shaniac,
he busted out on his jj account, then took over for his "grandmother", who had 10k in chips. essentially, he double entered the tourney.
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Are you kidding me Dumb Walrus? "Baseball players did steroids to cheat records... NOT Money"
Boy are you naive... Players used steroids so they could inflat their stats so that they could get the BIG CONTRACTS. It had nothing to do with cheating records. By players using steroids they had a BIG ADVANATAGE over honest ball players competing for contract dollars. The Cheaters won the money, most of them could give a monday morning dump about the records.
No different in poker and players using multiple accounts. The poker sites probably are torn on the issue as the increase in buy-ins increase their take and the prize pools which attracts more players.
However, this could have a negative effect long run when the honest players become educated on how significantly decreased their chances are of winning the tourney. So they either say f'it and start using "steroids/multiple accounts" themselves, quit or struggle through it even thoug their EV has dishonestly been decreased.
If a significant amout of pro's are using multiple accounts in these large freezout MTT's then for the honest player it becomes the equivelant entering a re-buy tournament and not being able to rebuy. We all know the disadvantage people who don't rebuy have. It would just come down to figuring out the EV correct amount of accounts to have each tourney 3,4,8...
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I think it's football where a player can sit out and force a renogotiation. But football players use steriods too.
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