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That Haxton was giving a terrific interview until they get to the World Series drama about last year and he turns into super-douche. Sebok apologized multiple times last year and on the show yesterday. Whether you agree with his play in the specific tourny or not, why not just let little shit like that go? You really just solidify your douchieness by being a bitch about the situation IMO.
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nobody likes a solidified douche. nobody
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He was completely correct though and basically owned Sebok.
I mean when you are considering whether he is being a super-douche or not remember the context, Ike is dealing with the Joe Sebok who called him out for bad play at the World Series. Ike is clearly much much more knowledgable about poker and the better player and yet Joe Sebok called him out and a hell of a lot of people would have heard this. How do you think Ike would react? Sure he sounds arrogant as hell but he is totally correct and basically he pwns Sebok imo.
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were can we hear this interview?
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c_rev
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01-06-2008 10:58 AM
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I dont argue with his logic, I just think the way he handled the interview (which was, I believe, intended to officially just clear the record and clean the slate between the two) was ultra douchey. He could have gotten the same point across in a much more tactful way, then I think he would have truly pwnd Sebok.
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c_rev
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01-06-2008 10:59 AM
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pokerroad.com or search poker road radio in itunes.
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I agree he could have been a little less arrogant but I think he would only come across as a total douche if :
1. You don't understand how right he is.
2. You don't understand the history here with Sebok calling him out.
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Although Ike is clearly the more knowledgeable player and completely destroyed Sebok's reasons for calling him a retard etc, he comes across as a total nerdy, arrogant prick, which in a perverse way reinforces Sebok's original estimation of him.
For him to react in the way he did to the recordings of Sebok's comments was unnecessary and pretty uncomfortable to listen to. For all his faults as a poker player (and i'm sure there are more than a few) at least Sebok conducted himself with a degree of class that is completely alien to Ike.
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c_rev
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01-06-2008 11:09 AM
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I understand his logic and the history. I see where he was coming from in his play, and I also enjoyed hearing his side of the story, that was great. Additionally, I was listening to every show involving "Haxtongate" last summer. Joe insulted the guy on his show, that was a shitty thing to do, and to his credit he apologized for that on multiple occasions. And I do remember them having Kenny Tran on the show during the controversy and he was just adding flames to the fire.
That being said, of course Haxton had a reason to be pissed about the situation. But christ the shit happened 7 months ago, this was Haxton's chance to take the high road, explain his thought process in the hands the two were involved in, and let by gones be by gones. Yes, he explained his thought process, but why did he have to go and insult the guy to his face after all this time. Its laughable how the interview played out really, but Haxton just made himself look like a real ass by choosing to act the way he did. Again, just my opinion.
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c_rev
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01-06-2008 11:11 AM
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exactly what I was trying to get across, you just said it better. tyvm.
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He was a little venomous and arrogant but my point is there was a good reason for that.
I admit Joe handled himself in a classy manner and Isaac was maybe a little too venomous considering the general atmosphere but I completely disagree with the douche comments. Just listen to the show again and the recorded sections of Joe from the archive with the original comments. He even admits himself he was thoroughly out of line especially since he was so wrong and looked stupid. Now Isaac was obviously very annoyed about this and had to listen to the comments over again before talking and now he gets to set the record straight.
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c_rev
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01-06-2008 12:02 PM
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we're just talking in circles now. point made, good day sir.
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just listened to the episode...he didnt come out as a jackass...just a person trying to defend his play
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canwe get a HH or youtube vid of the hand in question?
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I agree c_rev.
Cmoney I believe the hand was live at the WSOP. Just a few completely standard reshoves that Sebok did not understand.
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