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Hello Tom,
Thank you for your email.
PokerStars management has decided to extend player's JJProdigy current ban
to the PokerStars Carribean Adventure (PCA) event.
If you have any further questions, please let me know.
Regards,
Jacob
PokerStars Support Manager
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acp
(United States)
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01-02-2008 7:53 AM
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Why click thru all 6 pages? I just used the new search for newest post function, it works great.
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Why can't someone just get the balls to come out and say everything and everyone that is involved? Just switch your screenname and play anonymously under that...but seriously, someone should just let the cat out of the bag about who, what, when, where, and why.
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OK, JJprodigy has had 100's of K's confiscated, been banned from a major live event, and has had his reputation basically ruined in the eyes of the community.
Meanwhile Vannessa Rousso chip-dumps to her boyfriend (worse than multi-accounting IMO) in the biggest online MTT ever and enjoys a multi-million $$$ endorsement deal from the site that she cheated on? Sounds fair right?
Any chance that the pitchfork weilding angry mob might organize a mass e-mail effort on her behalf?
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rbj4ua
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01-02-2008 11:38 AM
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this is the dumbest shit ive heard in a while...freeeeee JJ..let him play!!!
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agree, the kid will be top ranked very soon oh and free zeejustin too why did nobody mention him?
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i think that if JJ gets banned then all the other known cheaters should as well...if no1 else gets banned then just let him play i mean if you cheat you should be banned but there will be ppl at the PCA who are cheaters and all anyone will be saying is how JJ was banned.
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Vannessa "aggressive call" Rousso is known for making these type of laydowns, really she hasn't been filmed making countless horrendous calls in the past citing pot odds and "game theory" principles, I'm sure she folds these hands to tons of other people besides her boyfriend.
PokerStars Game #12369474580: Tournament #70000023, $2500+$100 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1500/3000) - 2007/10/01 - 00:07:48 (ET)
Table '70000023 208' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: CASINOICE (49938 in chips)
Seat 2: stelladora (31701 in chips)
Seat 3: DearDeirdre (147170 in chips)
Seat 4: Ayune (157844 in chips)
Seat 5: Amulet (57762 in chips)
Seat 6: Superfito (50860 in chips)
Seat 7: crazyjanie (103412 in chips)
Seat 8: SamENole (86430 in chips)
Seat 9: LadyMaverick (226532 in chips)
CASINOICE: posts the ante 300
stelladora: posts the ante 300
DearDeirdre: posts the ante 300
Ayune: posts the ante 300
Amulet: posts the ante 300
Superfito: posts the ante 300
crazyjanie: posts the ante 300
SamENole: posts the ante 300
LadyMaverick: posts the ante 300
SamENole: posts small blind 1500
LadyMaverick: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
CASINOICE: folds
stelladora: raises 28401 to 31401 and is all-in
DearDeirdre: folds
Ayune: folds
Amulet: folds
Superfito: folds
crazyjanie: folds
SamENole: folds
LadyMaverick: folds
stelladora collected 10200 from pot
stelladora: doesn't show hand
PokerStars Game #12367243116: Tournament #70000023, $2500+$100 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (600/1200) - 2007/09/30 - 21:50:32 (ET)
Table '70000023 208' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: breid525 (40322 in chips)
Seat 2: stelladora (37358 in chips)
Seat 3: barenyrock (43256 in chips)
Seat 4: genetodd (44276 in chips)
Seat 5: Amulet (97124 in chips)
Seat 6: garsn (32445 in chips)
Seat 7: crazyjanie (80079 in chips)
Seat 8: SamENole (62203 in chips)
Seat 9: LadyMaverick (173801 in chips)
breid525: posts the ante 100
stelladora: posts the ante 100
barenyrock: posts the ante 100
genetodd: posts the ante 100
Amulet: posts the ante 100
garsn: posts the ante 100
crazyjanie: posts the ante 100
SamENole: posts the ante 100
LadyMaverick: posts the ante 100
stelladora: posts small blind 600
barenyrock: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
genetodd: folds
Amulet: raises 2400 to 3600
garsn: folds
crazyjanie: folds
SamENole: folds
LadyMaverick: calls 3600
genetodd said, "ty"
breid525: folds
stelladora: calls 3000
genetodd said, "flying to vegas"
barenyrock: calls 2400
*** FLOP *** [3c Jh Kh]
stelladora: checks
genetodd said, "that fatso"
barenyrock: checks
Amulet: checks
LadyMaverick: bets 7200
stelladora: raises 26458 to 33658 and is all-in
barenyrock: folds
Amulet: folds
LadyMaverick: folds
stelladora collected 29700 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 29700 | Rake 0
Board [3c Jh Kh]
Seat 1: breid525 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: stelladora (small blind) collected (29700)
Seat 3: barenyrock (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 4: genetodd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Amulet folded on the Flop
Seat 6: garsn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: crazyjanie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: SamENole folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: LadyMaverick folded on the Flop
PokerStars Game #12367006781: Tournament #70000023, $2500+$100 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (500/1000) - 2007/09/30 - 21:37:36 (ET)
Table '70000023 208' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: Skint Paddy (18690 in chips)
Seat 2: stelladora (27433 in chips)
Seat 3: barenyrock (30006 in chips)
Seat 4: genetodd (54926 in chips)
Seat 5: Amulet (93974 in chips)
Seat 6: garsn (42995 in chips)
Seat 7: crazyjanie (56889 in chips)
Seat 8: SamENole (69653 in chips)
Seat 9: LadyMaverick (173476 in chips)
Skint Paddy: posts the ante 75
stelladora: posts the ante 75
barenyrock: posts the ante 75
genetodd: posts the ante 75
Amulet: posts the ante 75
garsn: posts the ante 75
crazyjanie: posts the ante 75
SamENole: posts the ante 75
LadyMaverick: posts the ante 75
stelladora: posts small blind 500
barenyrock: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
genetodd: folds
Amulet: folds
garsn: folds
crazyjanie: folds
SamENole: folds
LadyMaverick: raises 1000 to 2000
Skint Paddy: folds
stelladora: raises 25358 to 27358 and is all-in
barenyrock: folds
LadyMaverick: folds
genetodd said, "whoes that"
stelladora collected 5675 from pot
stelladora: shows [As Jd] (high card Ace)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 5675 | Rake 0
Seat 1: Skint Paddy (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: stelladora (small blind) collected (5675)
Seat 3: barenyrock (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: genetodd folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Amulet folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: garsn folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: crazyjanie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: SamENole folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: LadyMaverick folded before Flop
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he'd prob use his doppleganger for lice tournies!
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I know I'm gonna get blazed for this question since this issue's been out there for awhile, but did JJ multiaccount or did he just play underage? (or both?)
If the only thing he did wrong is play underage (and get caught), then he should be allowed to play if he is of appropriate age.
If he cheated/multiaccounted, and Stars banned him for it, then Stars has every right to keep him out of their sponsored tourney. Sponsor's perrogative.
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Reech
(United States Minor Outlying Islands)
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01-02-2008 2:36 PM
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At this point, I'd like to come clean and admit that yes, I have multi accounted in many beer pong tourneys, even as recently as, ummm, two nights ago (happy new year). I realize the error of my ways and after much introspection (and vomiting), I've decided to...eh, fuck it.
When the poker sites get bought out by the big casino companies after the UIGEA gets yanked, it's gonna be real for everyone, since cheating on a site WILL get you into Harrah's corporate black book. I for one, welcome that day.
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To understand my scenario, you must first understand my day. I picked up my brand new expensive computer from a computer store today (I tried to build it, without knowing anything abotu CPUs, I suck!). I got home about an hour before the MTTs start, and it was very hectic, and I was stressing out a ton. My Grandparents come to the house every weekend. My Grandma is an absolute poker fanatic, and I try to teach her how to play just due to her sheer enthusiasm. I stake her occasionaly, as much -EV as it is. I'll be honest, I do not conserve money the best. I staked her to play the 500k at Party. A few hours later, I bust out of Party, and am only playing 1 MTT. Finally, I am relaxed. I see that she has amassed a decent stack. I start coaching her every hand. Once she got to aobut 10k in chips, I took over, still talking to her. When I got to 100k (tripled from 33k), I asked her to leave the room, and she could watch me on the laptop. I do get nervous and emotional when I get deep, and I figured I had a real shot at it. Of course, my grandma being the kind soul that she is obliged. Before I know it, I won the thing. I am thinking of buying her a new car, but I haven't put much thought to it.
I didn't really realize people would make that big of a deal of it until 10 people started IMing me telling me to prepare for shit. Curse at me, hate me, flame me. I can't say that I do expect less.
But, I just won 140k! Not even all this flaming can take away the amazing feeling I have right now.
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| I just want to make it clear that I am AGAINST multi accounting. You can ask my good friends, I am not a holy man, but I don't believe in it at all. | |
http://www.pocketfives.com/68F7F5AC-0C20-4CB7-B4D6-2F6F3203E56F.aspx
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The problem with punishing multiaccounters is that it is nearly impossible to enforce. Banning his account(s) means nothing. He will wipe his hard drives and create a slew of new accounts by morning. Banning a multiaccounter is like locking Houdini in a cage with chains and handcuffs and masterlocks on the chains and guards with shotguns outside of the cage but there's a curtain over the cage between the guards so it's kindof like the internet you know they cant see what he's doing back there and they'll only be able to catch him again when the guards see 20 more Houdinis running around the theatre picking people's pockets, but back to my point; it'll slow him down for a short while but he'll be back before you know it.
In conclusion Harry Houdini and JJ are dicks and I wish we could stop them from picking our pockets but we can only slow them down.
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