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Sassy, if he was being relayed the hands by a super account it would take a few seconds to get all the info together... with the 84 it looks like he limped in UTG before he had the info
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Sassy, seriously, you can't take ONE hand and try to quantify he's just a donkey theory when there are 1 zillion hands that support CLEARLY that this person had the unfair advantage of playing with the cards face up.
There is NO OTHER EXPLANATION, and I would bet everything I have that this person could see everyone else's holecards.
PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. THERE IS NO OTHER EXPLANATION.
Absolute has covered up a clear breach of security. There is no telling how much money was fleeced off the site, or even if the security hole has been fixed!
The hand history posted by Waco and Crazy Marco is irrefutable, and AP's prior statement that no one has access to holecard information goes right out the window when they emailed a player a hand history with EVERYONE'S holecards even without hands being shown down!
Compound that with the fact that the supporting hand history clearly shows the player with the river infinity aggression factor was 100% throughout the tournament winning even with inferior hands, knowing when opponents were weak, etc.,
AP has serious issues, has lied to it's players and the online poker community, and has a scandal on it's hands of monumental proportions. Lying and sticking it's head in the sand and acting like it is going to go away is just the worst thing in the world they can do...
You can't unexplode a bomb, they woud have been much better off disclosing the truth and doing what they could to restore confidence, instead they have eroded whatever faith we could have had in their word, which is now worthless.
Chris.
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So where do i sign up? I wouldn't mind making 20k-50k a day. Sounds like a good time. hahaha.
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Jennifear much thanks for you help in this,i just hope all members do their part in alerting all players everywhere about this sick site.Also sassy plz dont smoke crack before you post.
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Sassy, you are almost as annoying as that guy a few weeks ago who said it is impossible to win at online poker because of rake.
And with that 48 limp into KK, obv views an ace as an out as well, you can outplay ppl when u know what they have, even with if they have a big pair
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Jennifear....please when you make a long hand history post like this in the future. Make the first post a short note that says see post number two. Then post the extended hand history in the 2nd post right below. It takes FOREVER to load the entire history as the page goes to 2nd or 3rd pages. If you just had the little message first it would be almost instant on the 2nd page!!!!
Now that is some 4th level thinking there!!! git r done some say.
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Jennifear has wayy too much time on her hands. Your opportunity cost must be really high for this.
I say you start charging people for your explanations.
Weeeeeeeee.
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I just wanted to say thanks to Jennifear for attempting to show people who don't 'get it' why this is so blatant.
I only hope some of those people can actually read your analysis and understand what you are saying - if not, well, natural selection should help out eventually.
I haven't made a single post on this issue yet, but have done all the reading on all the sites. I also didn't feel the need to post since it is so clearly 100% obvious what happened.
This is exactly the kind of thing that keeps me from making any kind of real attempt at online poker. Every time I secure more than $1k online I cash most of it out and start again, because I simply don't always feel safe with my money on line, or playing against 'unknowns'... I strongly hope that AP does something to clear this up.
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waco makes a really good point that is more fully developed in his thread
it seems that potripper was being relayed th einfo by an insider at ap so he didnt see the the cards face up on the screen but was being told the info i would bet that he played pretty slowly for each decision compared to what online players usually do
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Someone correct me if I am just sleepy and not quite getting this.
Isn't Absolute's emailing the hole cards of EVERY PLAYER in this tournament the freaking SMOKING GUN???
Besides that, forget the last hand. The QT hand where PotRaper goes over the top of a big bet and reraise on an 8-6-3 board is all the proof I need.
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At least she takes the time to find a logical explaination rather than just agree because a well known player says it is or isn't.
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Also of note is as Nat posted on 2+2, Potripper folded rags the first two hands of the tourney before user 363 logged in, and once user 363 logged in he didn't fold again for 20 minutes preflop, until people had big pairs.
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Covered up a breach in security? Do you really think one clever hacker has taken advantage of an honest site or that the people behind the scenes at AP are the main cheats?
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jenn....do you think pottripper needs a backer?
kowboy
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