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Please take the time to review the hand history.
The evidence, summarized, is as follows:
- Potripper's actions are inconsistent thoroughout the hand history.
- He value bets correctly every time against his opponent's holdings on the river.
- He never loses a dime when he is beat and can't make the other player fold.
- He always raises 100% of the time when his remaining opponents have crap.
- He always folds to an overpair preflop, and never raises into one.
- He always limp/calls against any AK/AQ yet to act.
- He never calls when behind on the river.
- He never folds to overcards preflop unless the player with AK/AQ is shortstacked.
- He makes crazy 3bets and 4bets with horrible hsnds that happen to be best, yet he never does this when he is beat.
- Three times he bets into 4-way and 5-way flop pots without much of a hand, but only when all other players have nothing.
- He makes ridiculous calls against big bluffs.
- He never "guesses" wrong.
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After a full review, I have come to the conclusion that one of the following statements is true:
- Absolute Poker, in denying that there was a super-user account, has a completely inept security team that is unable to decipher the easiest hand history to decipher in history, and determine that there was cheating going on.
- Absolute Poker is aware that there was a super-user account and is trying to cover it up.
In the case of the former, I did your work for you. Your welcome.
In the case of the latter, we would have understood if some kind of security leak happened, but failing to admit it is a breach of trust.
Since your site is well aware of this forum, the fact that you have repeatedly failed to issue a public statement regarding this, is STRONG evidence that the second of the two statements is true.
Please immediately address this publicly, whether it be here or somewhere else.
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im sur the only person who really needs this HH comments is that Sassy person.
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LirvA
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10-14-2007 6:31 PM
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you know, he's actually probably a good player. Makes the optimal decisions. A terrible player wouldnt be able to make these desicions even seeing their opponents hole cards. This is a good player, no doubt in my mind.
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I like SassyTexan, and I don't think that her opinion should condemn her. What may seem obvious to most of us, is not obvious to everyone, and this thread was designed to help clear that up.
Keep in mind that a lot of the sites have built a lot of trust with us over the years, and this is surprising to most.
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Mr D
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10-14-2007 6:33 PM
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first all i am an idiot so i am expecting alot of BS on this but its easy to evaluate when we can all see the hole cards of everyone involved........but i am willing to bet if u took at the hand histories from some of the winningest players online and saw everyones hole cards 90% of it would look just like what u are reading now........i cant explain calling an allin with 9T v 29 ( bluff on the river) nor can i explain this guy opening the pot with K8 into a guy that is holding AQ (if he can see the hole cards as everyone says)..
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I think he has some experience, but I can't consider him good. He makes a few moves without much forethought, failing to think ahead a lot of the time.
In the other thread N82 explains how this is an inside job, and it's probable that one person was relaying the decisions to be made to another player on the other end of the phone.
This would explain why potripper's account was not originally seen as a superuser.
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Dealt to POTRIPPER [4h 8s]
Dealt to JOSIAHW [Kc Kh]
Dealt to POTR0AST [Qc 8h]
Dealt to POKERME420 [Js Kd]
Dealt to DZ00NUTS [7h 6d]
Dealt to KOOLKEITH13 [8d 4c]
Dealt to SCARFACE_79 [4s Ah]
POTRIPPER - Calls $30
He tries to hit cheap against the overpair, but without much forethought here
POTR0AST - Folds
yeah i'd say it was without much forethought AND he better make it cheap since most of the 4's and most of the 8's got folded preflop, he's gonna have a helluva time outflopping KK here
You folks just dont live in the same poker world I live in. I see this kind of stupid play day in and day out............but then again I'm an idiot, so they probably put me on their buddylist and chase me down
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LirvA
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10-14-2007 6:49 PM
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he's definately not a donkey. I just wonder what is going to happen with absolute now. This is simply too much to sweep under the rug. They are already losing players, and if people playing on their site start to learn about all this, they will lose even more. I dont really see any way they can keep going. Is failure unavoidable for absolute? Kinda seems that way.
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LirvA
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10-14-2007 6:53 PM
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"he has some experience, but I can't consider him good" seems like something they would say about Mark Seif.
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It's hard to say. With this (security failure or cover up, take your pick), it's going to be hard to regain the player's trust.
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