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yes the table was talkin about it. I played about 2 hours exclusively at his table before i busted. And i think about 30-45 minutes in, there was a bunch of grumbling at the table about cheating. I was multitabling prolly like 4-7 tables, and AP software kinda sux, so its hard to follow all the chat and action sometimes, but 1k tourneys usually have competant players at the table, and it kinda caught my eye when several players were grumbling about cheating, and i tried to go back and look at some HH's while i was playing to see what the fuss was about. i looked at several and he was winning a shitload of pots, and some of the showdowns were very interesting, its reall hard to play that many tables and check the HH's action real closely especially on AP, but ive been playing poker for a long time and seen alot of weird shit, most of it explainable or just bad players running real hot, and i figured this was what it was. i started paying alittle more attention, and sometime in the 2nd hour i knew something was wrong. he was just innialating the whole table. some reason i still raised his blind a couple times (got pwnd obv). The K8 hand i almost called his river shove cuz by that time i was convinced he was cheating somehow, and his overshove was condusive to seeing my cards. some ppl including me overshove the nuts sometimes, but there was no hand that made any sense, i hadnt shown any strength the whole hand for him to get paid if he had the straight. i checked behind intending to call the turn bet, and checked the turn intending to call river bet, the board just got real bad, and i lost my courage to call 4x pot bet or whatever it was with 2nd pair no kicker on that board.
So yes, player were accusing him openly of cheating very early in the tourney.
Obv make this thread so i have to get a PXfactor membership to watch. these guys are slick :)
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theres still 20,000 ppl online playing on absolute.............................. wow
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this has to be the best piece of work ive read.. thanks jen...
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This was very thoroughly done by you and you should be commended. However, all the victimized players' hands are now exposed to everyone for "free". They lose twice now. I understand why the real players actions had to be shown for the credibility of it all. AP should thoghtfully compensate them for more than the obvious fact that they were cheated.
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Chris , I really think that this HH email was sent on purpose by another administrator just to expose this shit. Think about how much was accomplished by this one so called "mistake" !
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None that I've gone deep in.
These are the hand histories I watch when I am trying to regain confidence and prep for a big tournament.
2-3 100rs
Stars 300 I lose mid stages
Stars 150 I win
Stars 1k I busted final 2 tbl to Raymer,
Stars 1k strassa won I bust final 4 tbl
Stars HU WCOOP 2007 8th
Party 200 I win
Stars WCOOP ME 2005 (but a couple mistakes late in)
Stars WCOOP ME 2007
FTP 200 I bust final 2 tables
This is out of over 2500 online tournaments played, and I don't think I played "perfectly" in any of them with the information at disposal when I made each decision, although I come very close in a few.
One of the most memorable poker quotes I've heard is from Phil Ivey, when he was considered to be a new hotshot and the very best. Ivey said that in reality he makes mistakes all the time at the poker table, and all he can do about it is play his best and learn from his experiences each time and use them to make better decisions in the future.
-Jeff
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Now, everytime the same guy beats me in a couple pots I feel like he is a super user!! lakdjflkajdflkds
i am gonna start making such horrible calls , i just know it.
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"ok, for the sake of this
post please assume that absolute poker is about to be done forever.
how does this impact the state of UB? are they owned by same people?
if so, is UB in trouble and has their integrity been brought in to
question as a result of this cheating?"
If they are owned by the same people would there be any doubt that their integrity is in question?
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one of the biggest truths i've noticed in this entire AP discussion in all the threads--some of the most brilliant computer and poker minds i've ever come across spell and type like f-ing 3rd graders.
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Try using punctuation correctly yourself before you rag on other people.
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fetaman
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10-16-2007 11:51 AM
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truly sickening to watch. People make decent plays on him but end up getting pwned because its sfobv he can see holecards. And LOL at anybody who can't see that this is 100% evidence.
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i think he's just really good at poker!
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