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The guy plays all but 10 hands of the 94 and all but one of the first 46. How do you NOT think you're getting caught?
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omfg this is dynamite! is there a way to get this available to the mainstream! ie:cardplayer and bluff magazine, maybe get a live pro to make a comment who is influential, this has to be available to all ap players! i still think majority of online players are not aware of this situation! P5S ADMIN you need to get some answers for your members
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Awesome, unfortunately everyone knows by now somethign was wrong. But hey maybe this would be useful to the guys at AP who claimed the playign was fine :P
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how could the public take legal action against AP? They cant unless im mistaken ( there is no system setup to regulate online poker, correct me if im wrong). The only thing we can do is spread the word and let everyone no not to play there.
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FiGMan
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10-15-2007 11:21 AM
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LOL @ hand #31
koolkeith got pwnd obv
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Good lord! I've never seen so much green on in the upper right... So much better seeing it like this rather than readin ghte history.
F AP! I now think this was part of their model as Bax suggested. There is no way a site operator would be unable to recognize this for what it is. I think their failure to admit this is an indication that it is more than just a person that compromised the site.
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WOW! This is the post that destroys AP, history is in the making.
This shows 100% proof in my eyes. Within the first 20-30 hands it's so freakin obvious.. So many key hands he just couldn't have played that way without seeing their hole cards.
SO.... AP was rigged and if it's not an employee there's a security hole(s) in their system... Considering AP lied about the security of their software, I'm getting a little paranoid about other sites now.
All I know is if you have an AP/UB account, withdraw now if you'd like to see your money again.
Bets on when AP will be shut down anyone?
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<3 how everyone is still humorous on this subject....gg p5s...
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Rank potroast 1 on pocketfives at playing well against superuser accounts!
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FiGMan
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10-15-2007 11:26 AM
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I'm thru 50 hands right now and actually want to throw up. AP cant be serious they found no evidence...........kdfjskdghskdghsdkghsdgkghksghksghs.
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Lenny
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10-15-2007 11:27 AM
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This is just sickening to watch. I mean, I knew it was real before this from the analysis Jen put up and the unanimous opinon of nearly every player who takes the time to look closely, but...
seeing it in action, in full color just makes my stomach turn. Scarface got flat out robbed, as did every other player who entered this tourney.
: ((((((((((((((((((((((
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Cabo
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10-15-2007 11:33 AM
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RevG
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10-15-2007 11:35 AM
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I think it was clear to everyone how sick this was before it went into the PXF replayer (especially after Jennifear spelled it out to everyone as if they were a 3 year old, good job jen! some people really needed it to be explained :\), I mean it was SFOBV! However, some people are obviously 100% visual, so this should remove all doubt.
Great Job on getting this into the replayer Scott/PXF!!!
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ok. i know im going to get flamed for this...but...
i just watched the first ten hands. first of all, this is far from solid evidence. the hh is in question as it does not even play by the rules of the game, ie... the order of action is messed up multiple times. that sheds speculation on the validity of this evidence. im not saying there is no super user account. im not saying that potripper is not one of them. im just saying that this video is not sufficient evidence.
ok. first ten hands only:
#1 - a bit interesting but not damning #2 - a bit interesting but not damning #3 - why does SB act prior to button? nothing else interesting #4 - nothing interesting. why would a "super user" account call a raise with a dominated hand? why would a "super user" account shut out a good 2nd best hand on the turn? #5 - nothing interesting #6 - whou would a "super user" account try to shut down a made hand who was in the lead? why rist so many chips to a guy who might not be able to lay down a made hand? #7 - whou would a "super user" account lead out on the flop here? why not let the pre-flop aggressor continue in the lead? or why not let the made hand in the SB take the lead? #8 - why does the button act prior to the cut-off? nothing else interesting. #9 - why does the the pre-flop action happen out of order? nothing else interesting. #10 - pre-flop call was a bit odd... but sometimes people get really loose with a big stack. and don't tell me that the fact that he shut down when behind is significant. this is the first time that he was not in the lead prior to being behind.
i will watch the rest of it... but so far, no big deal. i don't see evidence in hands #1-#10 anyway. i am not saying that there will be some in the remaining hands though.
edit: jennifear posted reasoning while i was typing. i will read it and post again taking back what i have written above if her arguments change my mind.
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RevG
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10-15-2007 11:38 AM
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For the 84359843985789345834th TIME!!! THE HAND HISTORY FROM AP IS WHACKED!!!!! Learn to read before you post. If you can't see that this guy has access to all the hole cards you shoud QUIT POKER IMMED!
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