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CarbonPoker · Full Tilt · Cake Poker · PokerStars · Ultimate Bet · Players Only · Bodog
Do you see alot of this, cause I am getting sick of it. Comments welcome as well as constructive criticism....ty in advance.
PokerStars Game #4971040130: Tournament #24673506, $50+$5 Hold'em No Limit - Level X (400/800) - 2006/05/18 - 00:30:40 (ET)
Table '24673506 21' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: ImAFish4U (10810 in chips)
Seat 2: gank (22445 in chips)
Seat 3: ErickW23 (13378 in chips)
Seat 4: aakkari (9740 in chips)
Seat 5: koolkeith13 (38350 in chips)
Seat 6: AkuAku (2694 in chips)
Seat 7: slurp420 (8980 in chips)
Seat 8: bdubs3737 (760 in chips)
Seat 9: choose14me (11305 in chips)
ImAFish4U: posts the ante 50
gank: posts the ante 50
ErickW23: posts the ante 50
aakkari: posts the ante 50
koolkeith13: posts the ante 50
AkuAku: posts the ante 50
slurp420: posts the ante 50
bdubs3737: posts the ante 50
choose14me: posts the ante 50
ImAFish4U: posts small blind 400
gank: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to gank [4h 4s]
koolkeith13 said, "sian"
ErickW23: folds
aakkari: folds
koolkeith13: folds
AkuAku: folds
slurp420: folds
aakkari said, "nh kool"
bdubs3737: folds
choose14me: calls 800 Limps on button
ImAFish4U: calls 400
koolkeith13 said, "ty"
gank: raises 10800 to 11600
choose14me: calls 10455 and is all-in
ImAFish4U: folds
*** FLOP *** [3d 9s Qd]
*** TURN *** [3d 9s Qd] [3c]
gank said, "hmmmm"
*** RIVER *** [3d 9s Qd 3c] [Td]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
gank: shows [4h 4s] (two pair, Fours and Threes)
choose14me: shows [Qc 9h] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
choose14me collected 23760 from pot
gank said, "I should have known you call"
gank said, "lool"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 23760 | Rake 0
Board [3d 9s Qd 3c Td]
Seat 1: ImAFish4U (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: gank (big blind) showed [4h 4s] and lost with two pair, Fours and Threes
Seat 3: ErickW23 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: aakkari folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: koolkeith13 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: AkuAku folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: slurp420 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: bdubs3737 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: choose14me (button) showed [Qc 9h] and won (23760) with two pair, Queens and Nines
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No, I think he is looking for a low risk confrontation free hand. He just wants the chips already in the middle. There are many worse situations than a race, but I don't think thats what he was looking for.
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Gank no offense to you but I could really care less if i knock you, bax, emptyseat or joechicago out of a tourney. After you pushed I had to figure out if I had pot odds. Honestly I do beleive I am pretty much pot committed here I figure at worst I am on the fence on this one. I have to to call 6k to win a 12k plus pot. You have a wide range of hands cause like me you want to win and your not going to win by not takeing risks. If ranked player would of made this call they would be praised.
Oh by the way currently I am in first w/ 120k and 2nd has 65k with 18 left.
I do not consider myself a top internet player and I know I do make mistakes were all here to learn. Maybe this was one of those, maybe your just heated and not looking at the situatuion as a whole.
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beanie
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05-18-2006 12:29 AM
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We had a thread in hand advice and "Is calling the new folding?". It used to be you won tournaments without showdowns. Now people are calling more and possibly are correct in doing so and the odds are doing the work, thereby, creating more variance.
I know for myself I look for more reasons to call then I used to and I can say that even when I was playing with you back in the day you were the guy with the target on his back and I was willing to take a bit of the worst of it to take you out.
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Well this is an obvious instance where Gank does not want to get called, even with a playable hand and a coinflip situation, but my comments were pointed toward Gank's remark that ranked players get called with a wider range of hands because the average Joe needs a story for his home game... (Gank, please correct me if I misinterpreted your remarks ). All I am saying here, is this. If these same players are willing to call this raise with mediocre hands, don't you make alot of money by them calling when you have premium hands?
-Jeff
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This is like Dannenman bluffing Lederer out of that one pot. Everyone
wants to knock out or bluff the better/best players. Should be making
you money in the long run though
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I dont have any comment on these specific hands but I do feel like people play back at me alot because I'm ranked or whatever. I also have a semi-reckless image and I think that has alot to do with it. I've just adjusted, keep repopping me with K2o plz....
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bmac
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05-18-2006 1:59 AM
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this is called the whitealroker button limp allin call. standard really. you're stealing so he's gonna look you up
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*I did not read the thread, just the orig post*
ewww. yes whom ever this person was he / she does not appear to make sense with this call--to say the least.
(unless, unbeknown to me and KNOWn to your opp is that the ONLY hand you all in with in that situation is 88 and under.)
and ouch. q &*&^ing 9.
--tc
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This kind of stuff happens ot me ALL THE TIME. Limping and calling iwth garbage for absolutly on reason. I dont get it, and dont really care either.
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Gank,
Ya can't get rid of em lately...seem they r calling more and more...My favorite is when someone bets a 1000/1500 preflop and you raise them 10/12k and they call off all their chips...skout... and to explain their idiotic call of your raise that put them allin as a huge dog they write:
" I was pot committed" !
Really not that funny at that time,
Dit
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this is the most consistant donkey move i see in tournaments and the biggest reason i keep playing, i love fishys
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I got called by exactly the same hand very recently in the late stages of a tournament on Stars. Unless I am dominating him I don't want the call, however I am never that upset when I have my money in as a favourite to win the pot. You can't spend time worrying about your opponent making bad calls, because it is a pointless exercise.
PokerStars Game #4908343945: Tournament #24233520, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (1500/3000) - 2006/05/12 - 03:15:09 (ET)
Table '24233520 15' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 2: InC0ldBlood (64586 in chips)
Seat 3: EltonCz (31690 in chips)
Seat 4: setupbluff (96339 in chips)
Seat 6: Bloomer (179792 in chips)
Seat 7: HarryKnox (24530 in chips)
Seat 9: VeryCoolGuy8 (54495 in chips)
InC0ldBlood: posts the ante 150
EltonCz: posts the ante 150
setupbluff: posts the ante 150
Bloomer: posts the ante 150
HarryKnox: posts the ante 150
VeryCoolGuy8: posts the ante 150
HarryKnox: posts small blind 1500
VeryCoolGuy8: posts big blind 3000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HarryKnox [Js Ks]
InC0ldBlood: folds
EltonCz: folds
setupbluff: calls 3000
Bloomer: folds
HarryKnox: raises 21380 to 24380 and is all-in
VeryCoolGuy8: folds
setupbluff: calls 21380
*** FLOP *** [4h 9h 8s]
*** TURN *** [4h 9h 8s] [5h]
*** RIVER *** [4h 9h 8s 5h] [Qs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
HarryKnox: shows [Js Ks] (high card King)
setupbluff: shows [9c Qh] (two pair, Queens and Nines)
HarryKnox said, "gg"
setupbluff collected 52660 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 52660 | Rake 0
Board [4h 9h 8s 5h Qs]
Seat 2: InC0ldBlood folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: EltonCz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: setupbluff showed [9c Qh] and won (52660) with two pair, Queens and Nines
Seat 6: Bloomer (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: HarryKnox (small blind) showed [Js Ks] and lost with high card King
Seat 9: VeryCoolGuy8 (big blind) folded before Flop
I am happy knowing I will get calls like this, I just prefer them when I have a big hand.
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