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is it okay to 3bet fold like this or am i supposed to call the 4bet shove everytime? or do i possibly not 3bet at all? thanks to any advice.
Full Tilt Poker Game #9700365499: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (73894271), Table 1 - 40/80 - No Limit Hold'em - 18:39:25 ET - 2008/12/26 Seat 1: grassas1 (1,935) Seat 3: callmeandsee28 (1,880) Seat 4: ZRogers (2,010) Seat 5: dmmickey (2,315) Seat 7: furryjoe (2,633) Seat 8: XXLERATE (1,130) Seat 9: chumanfu (1,597) callmeandsee28 posts the small blind of 40 ZRogers posts the big blind of 80 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to ZRogers [Jc Ah] dmmickey has 15 seconds left to act dmmickey folds furryjoe folds XXLERATE folds chumanfu folds grassas1 raises to 280 callmeandsee28 folds ZRogers has 15 seconds left to act ZRogers raises to 680 grassas1 raises to 1,935, and is all in ZRogers has 15 seconds left to act ZRogers folds Uncalled bet of 1,255 returned to grassas1 grassas1 shows [Kd Kc] a pair of Kings grassas1 wins the pot (1,400) The blinds are now 50/100 *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1,400 | Rake 0 Seat 1: grassas1 (button) collected (1,400) Seat 3: callmeandsee28 (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 4: ZRogers (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 5: dmmickey didn't bet (folded) Seat 7: furryjoe didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: XXLERATE didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: chumanfu didn't bet (folded)
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i would have prbly folded preflop, and saved the money...against a couple weak players i might play it strong and hope to steal a decent pot, but you would have to know they were weak...you could call though and seea flop, but what when you hit an A, are you actually happy? so i say fold. or you could raise like you did, then you HAVE to call though, after commiting that many chips.....imho
EDIT* your best bet is to not play that crap with a raise in front of you early when you have a high m.
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Pretty sure I just fold this to the initial raise in a SNG....
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i dont know if u mean with that title that villain was attacking blinds... if that's the case, he's not attacking with blinds 40/80. fold or call cuz its a normal fulltilt player raise u know, raise the pot. bet the pot. ugh i hate it
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i guess i'm donk but im really surprised that i'm being told to fold AJ in BB facing a button raise. I feel like all the videos on pxf would play the hand but...like i said, what do i know. thx for the advice. any other opinions?
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HiRaX
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12-27-2008 4:26 AM
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def not a reraise spot at all
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lol @ the suggestion of folding to a button raise in the BB with AJ
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HiRaX: |   |
def not a reraise spot at all
+1 either fold bc the initial raise screamed big hand... or flat it for same reason and assume he's holding a pair less then JJ...
Edit: As played, I don't think I can fold there at this point as you're getting just better than 2:1 and stuck in that much of your stack.
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****disclaimer****I am terrible****disclaimer****
I don't know that this is different since I play 2.25s but against a random I'm folding. I have to know that this is a regular who is going to raise a wide range and fold most of it, or a guy who has consistently made button steals in this sng, in order not to fold myself. If this is a reg I'm probably just shoving to pick up the 20% of my stack that's already in the pot and to try to limit his future steal attempts.
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fold to the 31/2 times the bb raise with AJ at this level (80) he's not raising light enough for aj to be a +ev call/raise
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m0ss
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12-27-2008 11:47 AM
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def not a reraise spot at all
+1 either fold bc the initial raise screamed big hand... or flat it for same reason and assume he's holding a pair less then JJ...
this thread has me me thoroughly confused.... Are you saying that if someone raises 3.5x from the button it screams big hand? Also, its player dependant but I'll usually be 3 betting from the BB w/ many Ax hands. Its strange how nitty some threads are vs how lag some others are....
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