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From Vanessa Rousso's blog
This guy has major problems.
I get moved to a new table with 12000 in chips. I am there less than 10 hands when I get dealt AJ suited on the button (6 handed tournament by the way). Checks to cutoff short stack player who raises to 600 (100, 200 blinds). I call. Aggressive big stack in the big blind re raises to 2000 (this is an important note…this player did this several times before in only the last ten hands, either he was being hit with the deck or he was steamrolling with his 25K+ stack when average stack was only 6K or so, so he can’t be given too much credit). Small stack pushes all in for 2150 (which means if I call the big blind big stack can’t re-raise because 150 is not considered an actual raise). I make an aggressive call of 1550 more because I was getting more than 3:1 on my money, we were shorthanded so AJ is stronger than in ring games, and I still have a healthy 10K (almost double average) stack even if I lose. Flop comes A A 2 rainbow. Big stack checks and I check. 10 comes on the turn putting up a flush draw. Big stack checks and I bet 2K with my trip aces. Big stack insta-pushes all in for my remaining 8K. This was a very difficult decision. I didn’t think he would push so fast without thinking first with an Ace (it wasn't like he tought about how to get the most out of me which is what a player with trips would do in that scenario)…then I remembered something he said after I called the 2150 pre-flop. He asked the dealer if he could re-raise. The way he said it, he didn’t seem to be happy about a 3-way pot. This made me feel confident he possessed a big pair. He couldn’t have aces since I had an ace. So that left KK, QQ, JJ, and Tens. I thought that he was aggressive enough to put this kind of move on with KK since the pot was so big and given his past play. But eventually I settled on the fact that he had Tens, he hit the two-outer on the turn and realized I must have trip aces and thought he could easily get my whole stack right there with a push all in.
That left me with one more thing to think about before I settled on a fold. Was I getting the pot odds to call even if I was behind? I had one ace in the deck, three jacks, and three twos to help me…that is 7 outs…but with only one card to come that is about 14% so I need to get more than 6:1 to make the call. I would only be getting about half that, so folding was the right play. At this point seat one (another player not in the hand) calls time and I am forced to make a decision. All in all I took maybe 4 minutes to make what was one of the toughest lay downs I have had to make in a while. I muck the Ace and show it, and the big stack says good read and shows the pocket tens. I was really happy to have made the correct decision, so when the big stack apologized for sucking out I smiled and said “that’s poker, nice hand.” Then I turned to the table generally and said, “Hey guys sorry that took so long, I hate to do that but it was for my tournament life and as you can see it was a really tough lay down.”
I wish that was the end of the story. As the dealer is dealing the next hand, someone I have never before seen or heard of in seat five (who wasn’t even in the hand) says in my general direction, “You are awful.” I turned to him and said, “Excuse me, what did you just say?” He looked me square in the eye and said, “You are awful, you played the whole hand like an idiot, you let him get there.” I just lost half my stack and this random guy is seriously going to needle me??!?!? Are you kidding me, is he for real? I say to him, “I’m sorry…am I confused? Did you buy me in? Because I could have sworn I bought myself in to this tournament. So I will tell you what: when you are the one ponying up 2500$ for me, then I will play like you think I should. But as long as I’m paying my own buyins, I am going to play the way I see fit.” It should have ended right there.
He looks me straight in the eye again and says, “You are pathetic.” I turn away and say, “You know what? You aren’t even worth it, I’m ignoring you from here on out.” He still will not quit. He says, “Not worth what, Idiot?” I ignore him and he calls me “pathetic” yet again, mumbling other comments in between half-smirks for the next ten minutes. He really, really, really went too far. In the end, I did not even give him the time of day for the next 30 minutes until I was eliminated.
I later found out that the guy was Aaron Been. I read Aaron’s twoplustwo post where he says I called the big stack an idiot with kings. He is a liar—and that doesn’t even make any sense, why would I (or anyone) have said that when the guy had TENS!!!! Moreover, I, unlike others, do not need to stoop to name calling at the table to try to get an edge. The big stack and I got along very well and when I was later eliminated he again apologized for always seeming to have the best of it when I picked up good hands too…I wished him and the others luck and left.
This was truly the most bizarre and confusing random act of anger I have ever seen. I mean I have never even spoken to this kid before! Clearly Aaron was steaming (he had a short stack) for reasons unbeknownst to me and he just decided to lose his **** for his own messed up reasons. Get some help buddy.
When Chad and I randomly ran into Aaron a few hours later in the hall of the Rio, Chad asked Aaron if he had a problem with me he wanted to address. Aaron didn’t deny a thing when Chad verified he had acted the way I had recounted. So Chad asked him to apologize and Aaron stood there in silence—not that I would think he would have the class to be a man and apologize for such blatantly indefensible rudeness. Chad stuck up for me the way I would hope any guy would stick up for their girlfriend when they are blatantly and FOR NO REAON (on the heels of an apology to the table for taking extra time no less!!) disrespected and essentially abused at the poker table.
I must have made a really easy target for Aaron. What a tough guy…he can pick on a 24 year old girl at a poker table when she has no recourse whatsoever but to ignore him…he must have felt really tough!!!
And as far as Aaron’s evaluation of my play: I might respect his opinion a little more if he actually had any results.
I play poker for a living. I am sorry that people have such disrespect for the game and for other humans in general that they can act how Aaron did. In my opinion, he degrades poker and himself when he acts like that. He was unsportsmanlike, rude, abusive, inappropriate, and genuinely seemed to enjoy his attempt to hurt me. I hate to break it to you Aaron, but the only thing ‘pathetic’ at that table, was you.
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This is not a rumor. The incident happened and this is her side of the story.
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Vanessa sounds like an idiot to me.
Her shot at Aaron Been's results is hilarious.
Aaron should have said she was a stupid poker slut that is only recognized because she is a moderately attractive woman in a poker world full of ugly old men. If she had a penis, and not a vagina, nobody would even know her name. Then he should have said she was at best a '6', and that she is a worthless piece of trash.
That would have done the trick.
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must be hanging around AJ too much. obv thinks hes gods gift to us all. in all due respect he is a great player, but have respect for others.
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Here is his response from 2+2...
First of all I never called Vanessa an idiot or pathetic. The exhcange she has in quotes is inaccurate, she actually said I was not worth it and bad and I said "bad at what?" while laughing and then we both stopped talking. At some point she said "who the [censored] are you?" Insulting things I said included that she misplayed every street and could not have played the hand worse. I probably said she played terribly as well. Guilty as charged.
Also she was the first one to say right as the shortstack shoved that the 3bettor couldn't reraise. Also the flop was AA4 with two diamonds. During the hand she said that the three bettor might be an idiot with kings and after the hand she kept saying it was so sick that he had 2 outed her. (Also she was not happy about the dealer calling the clock which is debatable but she did take well over 4 minutes.) That's when I first opened my mouth (BIG MISTAKE!). And LOL at her lasting 30 more minutes. After the ax debacle (she mucked with only an ace face up so im not sure she was even as strong as aj) she played a few pots and doubled up with jj allin preflop vs ak. Then she overcalled an ep raise from the sb with 910o one or two orbits later and then check called a q9x flop and check called a turn shove on a rag and lost to kq and got up and left.
Hopefully some of the guys from our table post on 2p2 and they can chime in. Seats 1, 2, and I had a good laugh about it after Vanessa left (honestly I wouldn't have if I had known how upset she was.)
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lol i want to know what Chad Brown did. i forsee a steel cage match in the future.
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BeatUp
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06-19-2007 9:28 AM
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I guess if she were 18, a fatass, had bad acne, and was a complete and utter douchebag personality-wise she'd be a much better person and not a "worthless piece of trash". Is it because of your deep seeded self-esteem issues that you are such a complete asshole to everyone for no reason?
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He threatened to beat Aaron with his giant man boobs.
GOOOOOOOOOOOOO AARON!!!!
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Timeisup just shut up please.
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Young, life-donkey, zero social skills douchebag insults a lady in public.......young, life-donkey, zero social skills douchebag comes to his defense in the discussion boards....This is truly shocking! I would never believe this could happen (uhh...yeah right).
Too bad YTIU wasn't there when Chad confronted Aaron. Chad would have been in BIG trouble (lmao).
In response to the inevitable smart-ass, incendiary response from the legion of 18-year olds, can Aaron at least give us his thoughts on why he actually commented on the hand in the first place? He wasn't in the hand and he chose to berate one of the participants. Any comments?
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1. Rousso doesn't "buy herself into tournaments". Pokerstars pays for her buy-ins because, by poker standards, she is an attractive female.
2. It was really brave of her to run to her boyfriend and cry about the whole situation, knowing full well that the so-called former actor, a.k.a the Jason Giambi/Barry Bonds/Mark McGwire of poker, would have a roid rage episode on Aaron Been. If Vanessa thinks she is a world class poker player, she should be able to handle the trash talking at the table instead of running to her boyfriend like the little bitch that she is.
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LOL at YTIU calling Vanessa Rousso a 6.
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I would have knocked the hairspray out of Chads hair,then got a rusty trombone from Vanessa,at the table.
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