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From Vanessa Rousso's blog
This guy has major problems.
I get moved to a new table with 12000 in chips. I am there less than 10 hands when I get dealt AJ suited on the button (6 handed tournament by the way). Checks to cutoff short stack player who raises to 600 (100, 200 blinds). I call. Aggressive big stack in the big blind re raises to 2000 (this is an important note…this player did this several times before in only the last ten hands, either he was being hit with the deck or he was steamrolling with his 25K+ stack when average stack was only 6K or so, so he can’t be given too much credit). Small stack pushes all in for 2150 (which means if I call the big blind big stack can’t re-raise because 150 is not considered an actual raise). I make an aggressive call of 1550 more because I was getting more than 3:1 on my money, we were shorthanded so AJ is stronger than in ring games, and I still have a healthy 10K (almost double average) stack even if I lose. Flop comes A A 2 rainbow. Big stack checks and I check. 10 comes on the turn putting up a flush draw. Big stack checks and I bet 2K with my trip aces. Big stack insta-pushes all in for my remaining 8K. This was a very difficult decision. I didn’t think he would push so fast without thinking first with an Ace (it wasn't like he tought about how to get the most out of me which is what a player with trips would do in that scenario)…then I remembered something he said after I called the 2150 pre-flop. He asked the dealer if he could re-raise. The way he said it, he didn’t seem to be happy about a 3-way pot. This made me feel confident he possessed a big pair. He couldn’t have aces since I had an ace. So that left KK, QQ, JJ, and Tens. I thought that he was aggressive enough to put this kind of move on with KK since the pot was so big and given his past play. But eventually I settled on the fact that he had Tens, he hit the two-outer on the turn and realized I must have trip aces and thought he could easily get my whole stack right there with a push all in.
That left me with one more thing to think about before I settled on a fold. Was I getting the pot odds to call even if I was behind? I had one ace in the deck, three jacks, and three twos to help me…that is 7 outs…but with only one card to come that is about 14% so I need to get more than 6:1 to make the call. I would only be getting about half that, so folding was the right play. At this point seat one (another player not in the hand) calls time and I am forced to make a decision. All in all I took maybe 4 minutes to make what was one of the toughest lay downs I have had to make in a while. I muck the Ace and show it, and the big stack says good read and shows the pocket tens. I was really happy to have made the correct decision, so when the big stack apologized for sucking out I smiled and said “that’s poker, nice hand.” Then I turned to the table generally and said, “Hey guys sorry that took so long, I hate to do that but it was for my tournament life and as you can see it was a really tough lay down.”
I wish that was the end of the story. As the dealer is dealing the next hand, someone I have never before seen or heard of in seat five (who wasn’t even in the hand) says in my general direction, “You are awful.” I turned to him and said, “Excuse me, what did you just say?” He looked me square in the eye and said, “You are awful, you played the whole hand like an idiot, you let him get there.” I just lost half my stack and this random guy is seriously going to needle me??!?!? Are you kidding me, is he for real? I say to him, “I’m sorry…am I confused? Did you buy me in? Because I could have sworn I bought myself in to this tournament. So I will tell you what: when you are the one ponying up 2500$ for me, then I will play like you think I should. But as long as I’m paying my own buyins, I am going to play the way I see fit.” It should have ended right there.
He looks me straight in the eye again and says, “You are pathetic.” I turn away and say, “You know what? You aren’t even worth it, I’m ignoring you from here on out.” He still will not quit. He says, “Not worth what, Idiot?” I ignore him and he calls me “pathetic” yet again, mumbling other comments in between half-smirks for the next ten minutes. He really, really, really went too far. In the end, I did not even give him the time of day for the next 30 minutes until I was eliminated.
I later found out that the guy was Aaron Been. I read Aaron’s twoplustwo post where he says I called the big stack an idiot with kings. He is a liar—and that doesn’t even make any sense, why would I (or anyone) have said that when the guy had TENS!!!! Moreover, I, unlike others, do not need to stoop to name calling at the table to try to get an edge. The big stack and I got along very well and when I was later eliminated he again apologized for always seeming to have the best of it when I picked up good hands too…I wished him and the others luck and left.
This was truly the most bizarre and confusing random act of anger I have ever seen. I mean I have never even spoken to this kid before! Clearly Aaron was steaming (he had a short stack) for reasons unbeknownst to me and he just decided to lose his **** for his own messed up reasons. Get some help buddy.
When Chad and I randomly ran into Aaron a few hours later in the hall of the Rio, Chad asked Aaron if he had a problem with me he wanted to address. Aaron didn’t deny a thing when Chad verified he had acted the way I had recounted. So Chad asked him to apologize and Aaron stood there in silence—not that I would think he would have the class to be a man and apologize for such blatantly indefensible rudeness. Chad stuck up for me the way I would hope any guy would stick up for their girlfriend when they are blatantly and FOR NO REAON (on the heels of an apology to the table for taking extra time no less!!) disrespected and essentially abused at the poker table.
I must have made a really easy target for Aaron. What a tough guy…he can pick on a 24 year old girl at a poker table when she has no recourse whatsoever but to ignore him…he must have felt really tough!!!
And as far as Aaron’s evaluation of my play: I might respect his opinion a little more if he actually had any results.
I play poker for a living. I am sorry that people have such disrespect for the game and for other humans in general that they can act how Aaron did. In my opinion, he degrades poker and himself when he acts like that. He was unsportsmanlike, rude, abusive, inappropriate, and genuinely seemed to enjoy his attempt to hurt me. I hate to break it to you Aaron, but the only thing ‘pathetic’ at that table, was you.
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Sigh I read the whole 2+2 thread, man I dunno why. Cliffnotes:
Anyway, gist of it is, it is clear Vanessa was being a whiny annoying douche at the table and berating a few people and after showing her cards exposing how badly she played a hand Aaron had enough and went off on how badly she played the hand and how bad she is at poker.
Her version seems totally embellished as confirmed by several other people on the thread including people who were at the table and don't know Aaron and some who were at tables nearby. Her whining was so loud and obnoxious that everyone in the vicinity could hear it clearly. It seems Aaron was venting pent up frustration at her whining annoyingness and bad poker playing which as anyone who has seen her on TV or played with her can attest to is suicide inducing.
MTC then confirmed the Chad Brown threatening to fight Aaron in the hallway incident.
LOLZ
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hahahhaha! she sed nice hand after hittin quads....wata cunt!
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Goooo Aaron!!
Goooo YTIU!!
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I remember a few posts not too long ago about "Don't say anything about that fat fucking douche who talked shit to Andrew Black and Gus Hansen in the Aussie Millions but got his ass handed to him by Hansen and he proceeded to cry like a little girl about his luck or you'll be banned." Now it's funny to attack Vanessa Rousso's appearance. Ummm...double standard? And uh, she is a good looking girl...don't hate. If you say you wouldn't hit it, you're either a straight chic, a gay dude, a pre-pubescent kid, or a bible thumper. As for me, I'm a dude, I'm straight, I...uh...let me check real quick....yes, hair on my sachel...and I pee on jesus.
And for the record, attacking Fricke or whoever he is is pretty low...just proving a point by stirring the pot...i.e. y'all mutha fuckas are pretty low here. And I'd put my money on Mr. Brown in a fist fight against whoever this clown is. Someone run their yap to my woman like that, I'd straight beat him the fuck up...but I'm a former Marine and that's just how I roll.
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It honestly makes me sick to my stomach to see the things that people are consistently willing to say about this kid. I am just in disbelief, and it takes a lot for a forum admin to be in disbelief over the insults people are throwing at someone. If he insults your (or someone's) poker ability, lash back about his or defend yourself. Attacking him in any other way is just a low blow. Have a little respect for other people in your community.
And mods, please take my point as well---it's fair game to ban anyone who bashes this kid or anyone else about their weight. It's just unacceptable, and we're not going to let that fly, not on this site. | |
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Pupkin
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06-21-2007 5:29 AM
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"All I can say is that this should def. be a plus ev cartoon by tomorrow."
Probably Monday.
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I only date anorexic international supermodels who can't keep their hands off of me. Vanessa is attractive and is a graduate of the Mike Nifong School of Law at Duke University. I'm not a board certified cosmetic surgeon but wouldn't hesitate recommending a rhinoplasty procedure.
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I was not present when this hand took place, but I also had a similar situation with Vanessa. It was the 2k nl holdem event and we played a very interesting hand. Vanessa went to fold but the dealer stopped her and told her is was her bb. it folds to me in middle pos. and I raise to 3x with 8 5 bc I had seen her try and fold, it folds to her in the BB and she says "I dont have a hand to limp but I will call a raise." The flop comes 2 3 5, she checks and I c-bet. she insta shoves. at this point I had a tough decision bc I thought it was possible that she had 66 or 77. I knew she was capable of making a play in this situation and after about 2 min. I called. she flips over 92 and I hold. After the hand she rants that I should have called instantly. "If you are going to raise that hand and you hit top pair you should instantly call." I was not very impressed by her reaction to this hand and wouldn't doubt that she made a rude comment to the BB in the 2500. Either way, LOL at her questioning AB poker success
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