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What's up everyone,
I've been playing live for a while and play a lot of the 1-2's at the Venetian and MGM and have been doing very well for a while, but when it comes to online, I've been losing my a$$ off in S&G's. It's to the point where I'm thinking about quitting, which I'm sure some of you would dislike as I'm sure that I've contributed to your bankroll in the past. :-)
I guess I would like to know if the level of play increases as the buy in's get higher? I've been playing mostly $10-30 S&G's and early positon raises and reraises still get called by a multitude of players risking half or more of their chips and AA or KK keeps getting beat by J-5 or Q-7. Longshot draws are being chased for whole chipstacks and it's like I'm playing No-Fold'Em Hold'Em. Live things seem to much different as someone has to physically move chips into the middle rather than clicking a mouse and the loss of real cash seems more intimidating than the loss of a buy in.
So, should I expect better play at higher buy in's or should I just stick to cash games?
Do some of you do equally well in Cash and Tourney or do some of you just excel at one or the other?
Thanks in advance for any help
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Will play get better at higher buy ins? Yes. Do you want play to get better? No. Will you lose more? Yes.
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your not gonna like this but if you cant change your game to beat the bad players you have no shot beating the better players. Stay where u are until you can win.
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Play the $5 SNG's for a little while and play tight but aggressive.... Let the donks go out first and dont call raises unless u have a premium hand. Then loosen up when the blinds are bigger and u are closer to the cash. But you're gonna see some varience. It sounds like u are playing your SNG's like u play cash. Two totally different ways to play!!!!
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 bongswats: | |
your not gonna like this but if you cant change your game to beat the bad players you have no shot beating the better players. Stay where u are until you can win.
Thanks for the reply, I see your point, but trust me I've tried various approaches and none have worked. In addition, I would hope that better players would recognize when they are beat and know to abandon chasing gutshots when getting the wrong odds to do so. Also, if I raise with AA UTG preflop and get reraised by the button and reraise him and he has plenty of chips left to fold his hand, a good player would know that I have something and wouldn't push on me with QJ and end up making a straight. Am I wrong?
What has helped you beat the lower limits? I really wanna get better online.
Thanks
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| cha2222: | |
Play the $5 SNG's for a little while and play tight but aggressive.... Let the donks go out first and dont call raises unless u have a premium hand. Then loosen up when the blinds are bigger and u are closer to the cash. But you're gonna see some varience. It sounds like u are playing your SNG's like u play cash. Two totally different ways to play!!!!
I think you are right, maybe I have too much of the cash mindset.
Thanks for the reply, I really appreciate it as I really wanna improve my online game, because playing in the comfort of your home certainly beats grinding it out in the casino.
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| Vekked: | |
Will play get better at higher buy ins? Yes. Do you want play to get better? No. Will you lose more? Yes.
I like your reply style. :-)
To be honest I wouldn't mind the play getting somewhat better, sure you don't want it to get better to the point where you are in over your head, but playing against people who have no sense whatsoever to fold, is extremely difficult. No one likes to hear bad beat stories, but just to give an example of what I've been facing: I'm UTG with AA on the bubble, raise 3x pre, get called by SB who has the same amount of chips as I do, we are chip leaders, Flop A-3-9 rainbow, SB bets out half the pot, I raise, he pushes all in I call, turn and river come 8 and 10 and he has QJ off for the winning straight and I'm heading to Best Buy to buy another wireless mouse as mine didn't survive this beat.
I can understand him leading out trying to pick up the pot if I didn't have an Ace, but once I raised he should have just let it go considering that the other 2 players left were extremely short stacked and he still had 15 BB's left.
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| Somborac19: | |
I'm UTG with AA on the bubble, raise 3x pre, get called by SB who has the same amount of chips as I do, we are chip leaders, Flop A-3-9 rainbow, SB bets out half the pot, I raise, he pushes all in I call, turn and river come 8 and 10 and he has QJ off for the winning straight and I'm heading to Best Buy to buy another wireless mouse as mine didn't survive this beat.
why would you quit online poker if your opponents are praying for runner runner perfect cards?
another post in which a person complains about bad players, it's so tilting
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idk if anyone has said this but seriously, why the hell would you want to play against better players? just think about it for a second. you want to play better players because theyll show up with better hands than the bad players. do you reeeeaaaaallllly want that?
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| Somborac19: | |
I've been playing mostly $10-30 S&G's
It actually sounds like you need to move down a few levels, not up
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jdsas
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07-03-2009 9:16 PM
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| bongswats: | |
your not gonna like this but if you cant change your game to beat the bad players you have no shot beating the better players. Stay where u are until you can win.
this. and spend the money. take the class. Jennifear will show you the light.
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| jdsas: | |
| bongswats: | |
your not gonna like this but if you cant change your game to beat the bad players you have no shot beating the better players. Stay where u are until you can win.
this. and spend the money. take the class. Jennifear will show you the light.
I'm new on here, what class?
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| leftygrove: | |
| Somborac19: | |
I'm UTG with AA on the bubble, raise 3x pre, get called by SB who has the same amount of chips as I do, we are chip leaders, Flop A-3-9 rainbow, SB bets out half the pot, I raise, he pushes all in I call, turn and river come 8 and 10 and he has QJ off for the winning straight and I'm heading to Best Buy to buy another wireless mouse as mine didn't survive this beat.
why would you quit online poker if your opponents are praying for runner runner perfect cards? another post in which a person complains about bad players, it's so tilting
The reason I said that is because I do very well live, but have lost quite a bit of money online. I think it's fair to say that the thought of quitting would cross anyones mind if constantly losing at something. I don't want to quit but would rather improve, hence joining P5 to learn something from you guys who regularly do well online.
Not complaining, merely ilustrated an example of what I've been running into and wondering if this occured at higher buy in's, that's all.
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| riverdrowns: | |
idk if anyone has said this but seriously, why the hell would you want to play against better players? just think about it for a second. you want to play better players because theyll show up with better hands than the bad players. do you reeeeaaaaallllly want that?
You obviously don't want to play better players than yourself as making money will become much more difficult. When I say better I'm refering to players better than not ever folding anything despite the odds. I guess I've just ran into a lot more suckouts than I ever have live and don't know what to do.
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