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According to Jay Bailey at the National Right for Online Gaming, the Safe Ports Act (H.R. 4954), which contains the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act, is expected to be signed into law by President Bush on Friday, October 13th.
In the meantime, please remain calm regarding this issue. These online poker sites are not going to "steal" anyone's money and its impact on Neteller and Firepay long-term is in question. We will continue to update you with more information as we know it.
On this week's edition of the Podcast (www.pocketfives.com/podcast), we'll have Poker Players Alliance President Michael Bolcerek, National Right for Online Gaming Executive Director Brian Jakusik, and Gambling Law Authority Professor Nelson Rose. This is a must listen to for everyone on PocketFives, as you will hear straight from our sources and industry experts all about how this legislation will and will not affect you. The show will be available a bit after midnight Wednesday.
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Dan
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10-05-2006 10:21 AM
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Thank you Dan as well as Cal, Adam, all P5er's that are doing what they can in regard to this issue.
I agree strongly that we should not panic.
We need to show some patience as well as unfettered determination and resolve to have this work out in our favor over the long haul.
Personally, I call my California senators office's repetedly over the past several weeks and received nothing but disinterest and in some cases a snotty attitude from those that were handeling the phones.
I'm a believer that this will work out for us. Some believe this bill that is due to be signed will change nothing. It certainly is at least causing a big reaction.
Questions to ask yourself are:
Do you really think the folks at Party Poker, Poker Stars, and any other off shore business are going to just walk aways from the hundreds of millions of dollars they make? I don't think so. What I believe is that there may be some adjustments that need to be made to cover their butts and they will make them.
Do you really believe that there is nothing we can do as citizens? Do you believe the 30 + million online poker players here in the US count for nothing if we make a big enough stink. I DON"T THINK SO!!!
LONG LIVE ONLINE POKER!
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claude
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10-05-2006 12:49 PM
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party poker is claiming a techical glitch as a reason for not sending my money i think i will get ripped off. all of you are naive to think the law will change. there was almost no opposition anywhere. it is a done deal.
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Dan
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10-05-2006 1:33 PM
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I don't think Party Gaming's millionaire executives have much incentive to take your money, given that it is also a publicly traded company. There would be an uproar from their shareholders, business associates, and likely international law should they swindle people out of money from online poker.
Be patient with your withdrawls; they will be processed.
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claude, I received 2 seperate 9k cashouts today I made early week, and have more pending - you will get your money man...
just think how many ppl have cashed out this week, they have alot to deal with right now...
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the moment someone gets arrested for this its going straight to the Supreme Court, so dont worry about it
this is infringing on our right to "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness"
there are lawyers out there that are absolutely BEGGING for this to happen
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And when/if it goes to the Supreme Court you better remember who all those recent appointments have been.
They're looking at quashing Roe v Wade, upheld the Patriot Act etc.
What on earth would cause them to give online gaming an overturn?
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Actually, the same principles that may quash Roe v. Wade and have upheld the Patriot Act are allies for Poker players. Scalia, Thomas, Roberts, and Alito, I can almost assure, would say that this is unconstitutional. Still, it would take one more, and I'm not sure where that one would come from regarding the other five justices.
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I cashed out of Party too - no problems.
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For Party...............the Parties over!!!
gg Party
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ahh friday the 13th, one of my favorite holidays
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Exactly NjDevsfn95...this is definitely infringing on our rights as a "free" country in pursuit of happiness" If this law actually gets enforced. It will remove our rights and our country will strip us of our freedom. Its almost as if we have a dictatorship and not a democracy. I can't believe this is actually going to happen. Its a stupid law...we have legal gambling in the U.S. so to ban it from the internet is truly stupid!
There's REPEATED sex offenders who continue to walk our streets and prey on innocent victims and homeless straving people and yet our country is more concern with people playing poker and yet allowing betting on horses & playing the lottery (biggest scam in gambling).
I'm sure other countries are sitting back amazed (not in a good way either) at our administration we've elected.
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Will western union work for online poker once it's illegal for US banks
and credit card companies to deal with poker sites?
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Seems to me the biggest problem is ISP's blocking the poker sites. There will always be ways to get around funding your account, but I don't know how you can around the blocked ip addressess.
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I didn't know it was a Constitutionally protected right to allow US banks to transact with foreign gambling operations. But then again, the only Amendment I've ever used is the Fifth.
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