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Villain has pushed the past 3 hands, so I can safely assume im ahead preflop 99.9% of the time, but on the bubble should I be willing to take a flip against the only guy that has me covered?? Results in white font...
PokerStars Game #22655763420: Tournament #125125175, $6.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (300/600) - 2008/12/05 19:38:48 ET
Table '125125175 1' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 4: 99sammy99 (4385 in chips)
Seat 5: KeepGivinr (4350 in chips)
Seat 8: TigsyNL (2210 in chips)
Seat 9: Qabalith (2555 in chips)
99sammy99: posts the ante 50
KeepGivinr: posts the ante 50
TigsyNL: posts the ante 50
Qabalith: posts the ante 50
TigsyNL: posts small blind 300
Qabalith: posts big blind 600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to KeepGivinr [Ts Tc]
99sammy99: raises 3735 to 4335 and is all-in
KeepGivinr:
calls
4300 and is all-in
TigsyNL: folds
Qabalith: folds
Uncalled bet (35) returned to 99sammy99
*** FLOP *** [4h Ad 5h]
*** TURN *** [4h Ad 5h] [Kc]
*** RIVER *** [4h Ad 5h Kc] [9c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
99sammy99: shows [Kh Qc] (a pair of Kings)
KeepGivinr: shows [Ts Tc] (a pair of Tens)
99sammy99 collected 9700 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9700 | Rake 0
Board [4h Ad 5h Kc 9c]
Seat 4: 99sammy99 showed [Kh Qc] and won (9700) with a pair of Kings
Seat 5: KeepGivinr (button) showed [Ts Tc] and lost with a pair of Tens
Seat 8: TigsyNL (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: Qabalith (big blind) folded before Flop
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Do yourself a favor and get an ICM calculator.
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Assuming that he is pushing what he is supposed to be (62%) then you can profitably call with JJ. If you KNOW FOR CERTAIN that he is on any two, you can profitably call with tens.
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As simple as Mikeand's advice is here, it's good advice.
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I knew it was ATC, but most of the time its a coin flip with 2 unpaired overcards. As long as Jennifear says its ok, then I like my play :)
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 JustGivr: | |
I knew it was ATC, but most of the time its a coin flip with 2 unpaired overcards. As long as Jennifear says its ok, then I like my play :)
am i wrong in thinking that if you assume most of the time its a coin flip with 2 unpaired overcards, that his range isnt ATC?
id probably sigh then fold knowing i have the best hand here. (unless i was tilty, then id snap call) :(
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i hate posts liek this where he made a bad call on the bubble and saying he was against ATC, but expected a flip????? then he is not shoving any 2 and like jennifear said u have to fold
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| MuiMuiBueno: | |
i hate posts liek this where he made a bad call on the bubble and saying he was against ATC, but expected a flip????? then he is not shoving any 2 and like jennifear said u have to fold
| JustGivr: | |
I knew it was ATC, but most of the time its a coin flip with 2 unpaired overcards.
I hate posts that start with "i hate posts like this".
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wat im saying is that u posted this hand because the player showed up with KJ or something. ur saying hes shoving any2 because he has shoved in the previous hands, but u havent see wat he has had, so therefore u dont no he is shoving any 2. u r simply saying this to make urself jusify this call which u no based o ICM is a bad call given the 2 shortstacks present.
Also i love the "hes shoving any 2 but he shows up with 2 face cards most times" loool do u not no how little sense this makes??
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I fold this 98/100 times. I am not sure what the math is, but I fold knwoing if he is this aggro, there will be a better spot to pick him off, and I have a very good shot to make the money folding here.
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