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Some big breaking news regarding UB...
N 82 50 24 (Cayman Islands) 5,563 Posts. Joined 06-12-2005.
07-13-2008 12:12 AM

This is a x-post from 2p2.

OMG wow...

http://sandgate.co.clark.nv.us/servl...el=13819810002

The address is 1725 Glenview Dr.

138-19-810-002 HAMILTON RUSSELL & CAROLYN *20060523:03704 05/23/2006 JOINT TENANCY 200 SUBDIVIDED LOT

Okay people, the address on three of the accounts is owned by Russ and Carolyn Hamilton.

Any questions?

FWIW, this was the info given out by a UB whistleblower (not brainwash, as far as I know):

Customer ID: Token ID: Username: Status: Creation Date: Update Date: 227061 Sleeplesss Active 2003-09-16 16:33:01 2007-09-05 13:12:49 Name: Lauren B Makar Address 1: 1725 Glenview Dr. Address 2: Address 3: Address 4: City, State, Postal Code Las Vegas, NEVADA 89134 Country UNITED STATES Customer Phone: 702326xxxx Customer Birthdate: 1967-xx-xx Email Information: Address: atease@vegasinbox.com

I got rid of some information like the birthdate and phone number to protect whoever Lauren Makar is.

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Basically, the address of one of the cheating accounts is Russ Hamilton's address.

This is the big thread, maybe someone else can summarize: http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthread.php?t=237495

 
 
 

DemonEyez (Canada) 145 Posts. Joined 06-11-2006.
07-13-2008 12:41 PM - In reply to

i'll tell you why annie doesn't go over to FT to join her brother.......howard would have to be out of his mind to associate FT name with his sisters name after all that has happened......not sayin she's guilty of anything...would just be a disaster business move on howards part.


Ozzie (United States) 2,937 Posts. Joined 02-01-2007.
07-13-2008 12:49 PM - In reply to

DemonEyez: 

i'll tell you why annie doesn't go over to FT to join her brother.......howard would have to be out of his mind to associate FT name with his sisters name after all that has happened......not sayin she's guilty of anything...would just be a disaster business move on howards part.




Fuckin'eh

i wouldnt be comfortable playing tilt if annie jumped ship right to there without first being completely vindicated of any wrongdoing or knowledge of wrongdoing by those at UB.  and i just dont see how that's possible.  im kinda glad shes still towing the company line.  annie, please go down with the ship and then stay the hell out of online poker(if you avoid jail time).

redbullgolfer (United States) 241 Posts. Joined 07-17-2005.
07-13-2008 1:04 PM - In reply to

Where do i sign the petition?  


slizza420 (South Africa) 1,101 Posts. Joined 04-05-2008.
07-13-2008 1:20 PM - In reply to

Good work Nat!! More interesting stuff. Ya Annie knows what's up lol. She also knows that UB can't be prosecuted in any way so basically they have total immunity. The only thing they risk is losing customers and it appears as of right now that isn't happening either. In fact UB's customer base has grown in recent weeks after Annie developed the revamped tourny schedule. The 60 Minutes piece might cut into some of their #s but we'll have to wait and see. It appears to me that very few of their customers are members of this site and I don't think 98% of em have any clue of what has really happened there.


Bob Futon (Libyan Arab Jamahiriya) 7,622 Posts. Joined 10-19-2007.
07-13-2008 1:21 PM - In reply to

Mark/Three,

No offense to either of you since you post on here but could you guys not hijack this thread.  As it is these things get 10 good posts and then 90 friggin clutter posts.  Take it to PM if you guys have issues with each other.

Thanks for all the work on this Nat, I've followed your 2+2 stuff pretty closely.  We all owe you a pretty big debt for helping to tie this all together and clean out this crap.

I'd be interested to see Mr. Hamilton's tax returns the last few years.  My guess is if you really want to nail him it's going to be IRS that takes him down for having unclaimed income.  Fraud/racketerring would be tough to prove as I'd be amazed to see UB actually cooperate in any federal investigation.


skellir (Iceland) 368 Posts. Joined 07-04-2005.
07-13-2008 1:23 PM - In reply to

I really wanna know if Annies boyfriend got a acting part in House:))
So anny did he?? (iam obv just trying to smooth things up a little!!!!)

Iam really supriced she hasnt made any reply in this thread


AQUAHOLIC (United States) 408 Posts. Joined 12-24-2007.
07-13-2008 1:23 PM - In reply to

MarkFSU1: 
threebanger: 

Threebanger im gettin a little pissed at you trolling around my threads

Your threads LOL you own em? It would be this thread and the one in which you called UB the "best 3rd site option for US players" right now. Yeah ok the diff between defending and promoting I guess, way to split hairs.

Get pissed all you want, but anyone saying "oh Annie might not have known all this stuff" is either stupid or a liar. Which are you?

I won't "troll" your posts anymore big shot, don't worry.



You clearly are retarded or you cant read?  Sorry if it came across as "my" threads, but theres 110 posts in here and for some reason every time i post, you pick my post to misread and misquote what I am saying and then talk shit.  LOL dude


nah...its jus cuz ur one of the few trying to defend UB

OlDirtyDawson (United States) 1,095 Posts. Joined 01-29-2006.
07-13-2008 1:26 PM - In reply to

I would agree that Annie shouldn't take the bashing personally. I know she's just trying to do her job, but it really does seem like most people aren't ever gonna give UB another chance ever again, and she would be better off representing Full Tilt.

All the back and forth isn't really gonna change that, no argument is gonna change that, and all the threads about it are silly. How much more can you beat a dead horse?

The best thing you guys can all do is ignore anything UB related (you know, like 0 replies). It's been the same thing for years, what has changed? Don't give anyone at UB a reason to act like you do still care.

AQUAHOLIC (United States) 408 Posts. Joined 12-24-2007.
07-13-2008 1:28 PM - In reply to

MarkFSU1: 

I HAVE NEVER DEFENDED UB AND I AM NOT TRYING TO DEFEND UB...WHAT PART OF THAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND



easy there caps lock killa

well ur one of the few "promoting" UB

IbizaCF3 (United States) 5,482 Posts. Joined 10-25-2006.
07-13-2008 1:43 PM - In reply to

Don't worry too much, Mark. Aquaholic is just an internet badass who only posts to talk shit to other people.

At least that's all I've ever seen him post.


Adam (Costa Rica) 11,354 Posts. Joined 12-21-2004.
07-13-2008 1:45 PM - In reply to

Any more personal bickering, and we are going to start banning people...

Posting about what's going on and discussion of the issues is fine.  Posting just to put someone else down, name-calling, etc. aren't going to be tolerated.  Try to be constructive when you hit that "post" button


TheFirm53 (United States) 5,037 Posts. Joined 11-25-2007.
07-13-2008 1:52 PM - In reply to

guess oghowie missed the post by ADAM right before him.


IbizaCF3 (United States) 5,482 Posts. Joined 10-25-2006.
07-13-2008 1:53 PM - In reply to

The micro stakes grinders you're attacking are the majority of people who post on this forum to begin with, so I don't really know why you're trying to exile 99.8% of the people who come here...


Willywoo (Djibouti) 11,522 Posts. Joined 01-30-2006.
07-13-2008 1:58 PM - In reply to

 Serious question.



Why does Full Tilt Poker and any other online poker site stay with KGC rather than submit to the jurisdiction of The Isle of Man as Poker Stars did?


LVpokerdealer (United States) 9,459 Posts. Joined 04-18-2006.
07-13-2008 1:59 PM - In reply to

I just wish hellmuth was in on it cuz I hate him 

 
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