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P5ers,
The past 72 hours have been really difficult for us here at P5s as things have gotten out of hand quickly in regards to the AP super-user situation. We have never faced a situation quite like this before; one of our trusted partners has been accused of serious security vulnerabilities, and the accusations appear to have merit. In fact, when this situation first came to light, our inclination was to dismiss it as another “online poker is rigged” post. However, after careful examination of all the facts presented, it’s just not possible for us to do that anymore.
Thereby, we have decided to indefinitely suspend any promotion of Absolute Poker, including site links, banners, and inclusion of future tournaments in the rankings. Please understand that this is not a conviction on our part; it's simply an acknowledgement that significant and meaningful questions have arisen about the security of their site, and until those questions can be resolved to our satisfaction, we don't feel comfortable encouraging our users to play there.
We're in the process of removing links and promotional materials--most of them are down already. Please be patient while we get this all set.
Looking ahead, we intend to work with Absolute Poker as closely as possible to get all the facts and decipher them from "Internet folk lore." In fact, we've been on several phone calls today with AP trying to find out what they know about this situation and how they’re dealing with it. We’ll continue to press them to try and find out more. They’ve also invited us to have full access to their office and systems, and we’re hoping to be able to use that access to find out more about what went wrong. Anything and everything we discover will be reported here on the site, and hopefully it will shed more light on the situation.
In closing, I'd like to say that we all want what you want---for online poker games to be safe, fair, and trustworthy. We hope that our decision helps us all in realizing that goal.
Best,
--Adam
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fetaman
(Holy See (Vatican City State))
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10-16-2007 11:35 AM
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P5's is a slice of heaven.
The community, the respect, the open dialogue - thanks for keeping it real.
GG
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lay off of pepsi Pepsi rules
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Directly from Absolutepoker.com:
Absolute Poker is secure in the transfer of any information between its players and our Absolute servers. We utilize the internationally accepted industry standard SSLv3/TLSv1 encryption algorithm to protect your information as it transfers between our client application running on your computer and our servers. So whether it is credit card, your name, password, your cards, your personal address and any other private information is protected. Player cards are sent directly and exclusively to the individual player's computer without ever being susceptible of being hacked. Also no other computer playing at your table can see your face down cards. This security is the best available and prevents any hacking and ultimately collusion to take place.
looks like lol, litigationaments time
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Not if "Dr. Evil" was running the Pepsi division and covering up the efforts of his henchman "Harry Potripper", while "Dr. Dogood" was running the Mountain Dew division fairly like a good little manager should.
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I wouldn't have expected any different from P5's. Way to set the tone to protect the integrity of online poker.
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I agree with gank, Ultimate Bet should be removed too. Same management group apparently. And from my understanding of this situation, the software was not hacked, it was accessed from the inside using the '363' account. So if the problem is on the inside, and UB has the same management, shouldn't UB adds be removed as well???
q-_-p
"...and two in times of war."
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So whats going on with ultimatebet? arn't they the same company now?
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Rhoof
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10-16-2007 1:44 PM
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Let me get my money off UB before we lump them in completely w/ AP.
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Nice work, P5's! Hopefully, the karma received by cutting ties with an unethical business partner(or at least someone who represents AP), will result in financial gains elsewhere.
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this is wack all these things about security is not helping keeping online poker legal!! aaah
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Pupkin
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10-16-2007 4:08 PM
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I agree with gank about UB.
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Translation:
Pocket 5's, like any other legitimate poker outlet, website or service to online poker, will run as fast as it can in the other direction from the people in poker (AP in this instance) that dont have their shit together as large scale operation, like AP's. The only thing a poker website has is its reputation for running a clean game, and allows its customers instant access to play or to cash out.
Once you lose that you are banished to an island in the Pacific, only fit for the likes of diseased animals. GG Ap, RIP.
Stars, P5's and PXF pwn.
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