Come play the end of a SNG with me! I am PunkinBear on FTP. In the endgame of a SNG, there are often a few spots where raising with nothing is profitable. This particular SNG had several of those spots, and I'd like to share my thoughts on each hand (in bold)
*********** # 30 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155140666: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 1:54:27 ET
Seat 1: babyfeeg (1,340) Seat 2: tommyk (630) Seat 3: ScientistSET (2,515) Seat 6: PunkinBear (3,610) Seat 8: ludedude128 (2,230) Seat 9: race62 (3,175) race62 posts the small blind of 80 babyfeeg posts the big blind of 160 The button is in seat #8 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [Ad Th] tommyk raises to 630, and is all in
Tommyk has a stack of 3.9xBB, and is next to take the BB. Therefore I range him pretty wide. I range him on J10, Q9+, K8+, A2+, 22+.
ScientistSET folds PunkinBear folds
My ATo fares quite well against his range, (about a 55-45 fave), but this is a situation where if I just call I will be potentially forced in by another player if they do have a hand, so I consider this a raise/fold spot. I pass up the smallish 55-45 edge to avoid the three players behind me potentially putting me in grave danger.
ludedude128 folds race62 folds babyfeeg folds Uncalled bet of 470 returned to tommyk tommyk mucks tommyk wins the pot (400) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 400 | Rake 0 Seat 1: babyfeeg (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 2: tommyk collected (400) Seat 3: ScientistSET didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: ludedude128 (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: race62 (small blind) folded before the Flop
*********** # 31 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155142223: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 1:54:52 ET
Seat 1: babyfeeg (1,180) Seat 2: tommyk (870) Seat 3: ScientistSET (2,515) Seat 6: PunkinBear (3,610) Seat 8: ludedude128 (2,230) Seat 9: race62 (3,095) babyfeeg posts the small blind of 80 tommyk posts the big blind of 160 The button is in seat #9 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [8c 8d] ScientistSET folds PunkinBear raises to 480
A standard raise here with 88.
ludedude128 folds race62 folds babyfeeg folds tommyk folds Uncalled bet of 320 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (400) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 400 | Rake 0 Seat 1: babyfeeg (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 2: tommyk (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 3: ScientistSET didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear collected (400) Seat 8: ludedude128 didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: race62 (button) didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 32 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155144071: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 1:55:23 ET
Seat 1: babyfeeg (1,100) Seat 2: tommyk (710) Seat 3: ScientistSET (2,515) Seat 6: PunkinBear (3,850) Seat 8: ludedude128 (2,230) Seat 9: race62 (3,095) tommyk posts the small blind of 80 ScientistSET posts the big blind of 160 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [9d Qd] PunkinBear folds
Standard fold UTG 6-handed.
ludedude128 folds race62 folds babyfeeg raises to 480 tommyk folds ScientistSET calls 320 *** FLOP *** [9s 7c 5h] ScientistSET checks babyfeeg bets 620, and is all in ScientistSET folds Uncalled bet of 620 returned to babyfeeg babyfeeg mucks babyfeeg wins the pot (1,040) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1,040 | Rake 0 Board: [9s 7c 5h] Seat 1: babyfeeg (button) collected (1,040) Seat 2: tommyk (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 3: ScientistSET (big blind) folded on the Flop Seat 6: PunkinBear didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: ludedude128 didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: race62 didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 33 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155146115: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 1:55:56 ET
Seat 1: babyfeeg (1,660) Seat 2: tommyk (630) Seat 3: ScientistSET (2,035) Seat 6: PunkinBear (3,850) Seat 8: ludedude128 (2,230) Seat 9: race62 (3,095) ScientistSET posts the small blind of 100 PunkinBear posts the big blind of 200 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [4s Jc] ludedude128 folds race62 folds babyfeeg folds tommyk folds ScientistSET folds Uncalled bet of 100 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (200) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 200 | Rake 0 Seat 1: babyfeeg didn't bet (folded) Seat 2: tommyk (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 3: ScientistSET (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 6: PunkinBear (big blind) collected (200) Seat 8: ludedude128 didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: race62 didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 34 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155147079: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 1:56:11 ET
Seat 1: babyfeeg (1,660) Seat 2: tommyk (630) Seat 3: ScientistSET (1,935) Seat 6: PunkinBear (3,950) Seat 8: ludedude128 (2,230) Seat 9: race62 (3,095) PunkinBear posts the small blind of 100 ludedude128 posts the big blind of 200 The button is in seat #3 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [9c Kh] race62 folds babyfeeg folds tommyk folds ScientistSET folds PunkinBear raises to 600
Standard raise with any two cards here. Ludedude is in a position where he would have to risk his third place standing to double, and potentially miss cashing. He feels the FEAR and folds. Since Lude will likely fold 75% or more of his holdings, it is correct to raise with any two.
Let's take away my cards (give me a Barry Bonds Rookie and a Draw Four Uno card instead) and do the math.
If I raise to 600 and win, I win 200. If I raise to 600 and get called/reraised, I lose 600.
Since 200x3=600x1, if he folds 75% of the time, I can raise with air!
Say he folds 80% of the time for instance:
In 100 trials, I win 200 chips when he folds, 80 times for a total of 16000 chips. In 100 trials, I lose 600 chips when he plays, 20 times for a total of 12000 chips. That's +4000, and divided by 100, thats 40 chips per hand. VERY +EV!
A 40 chip gain per hand, raising with air! The fact that I have cards at all is just a bonus here.
So.... what's 75%? KJ is a hand that beats 75% of all of the hands out there. So if you feel your opponent will fold KJ here, whether because he is tight, or the situation demands it, it's go time!
ludedude128 folds Uncalled bet of 400 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (400) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 400 | Rake 0 Seat 1: babyfeeg didn't bet (folded) Seat 2: tommyk didn't bet (folded) Seat 3: ScientistSET (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear (small blind) collected (400) Seat 8: ludedude128 (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 9: race62 didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 35 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155148514: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 1:56:35 ET
Seat 1: babyfeeg (1,660) Seat 2: tommyk (630) Seat 3: ScientistSET (1,935) Seat 6: PunkinBear (4,150) Seat 8: ludedude128 (2,030) Seat 9: race62 (3,095) ludedude128 posts the small blind of 100 race62 posts the big blind of 200 The button is in seat #6 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [Ad 9c] babyfeeg folds tommyk folds ScientistSET folds PunkinBear raises to 600
Raising based on hand strength here. Though I suspect the BB might fold enough to justify a raise with anything, I'm not looking to mess with the player that can hurt me the most just yet, especially since I have been active, and I'm not sure yet whether race has it in his repertoire to fight back without a hand.
ludedude128 folds race62 folds Uncalled bet of 400 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (500) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 500 | Rake 0 Seat 1: babyfeeg didn't bet (folded) Seat 2: tommyk didn't bet (folded) Seat 3: ScientistSET didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear (button) collected (500) Seat 8: ludedude128 (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 9: race62 (big blind) folded before the Flop
*********** # 36 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155149713: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 1:56:56 ET
Seat 1: babyfeeg (1,660) Seat 2: tommyk (630) Seat 3: ScientistSET (1,935) Seat 6: PunkinBear (4,450) Seat 8: ludedude128 (1,930) Seat 9: race62 (2,895) race62 posts the small blind of 100 babyfeeg posts the big blind of 200 The button is in seat #8 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [6c Js] tommyk folds ScientistSET calls 200 PunkinBear folds
No reason to get involved here. Be fast, but be first.
ludedude128 raises to 800 race62 folds babyfeeg folds ScientistSET folds Uncalled bet of 600 returned to ludedude128 ludedude128 mucks ludedude128 wins the pot (700) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 700 | Rake 0 Seat 1: babyfeeg (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 2: tommyk didn't bet (folded) Seat 3: ScientistSET folded before the Flop Seat 6: PunkinBear didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: ludedude128 (button) collected (700) Seat 9: race62 (small blind) folded before the Flop
*********** # 37 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155151884: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 1:57:31 ET
Seat 1: babyfeeg (1,460) Seat 2: tommyk (630) Seat 3: ScientistSET (1,735) Seat 6: PunkinBear (4,450) Seat 8: ludedude128 (2,430) Seat 9: race62 (2,795) babyfeeg posts the small blind of 100 tommyk posts the big blind of 200 The button is in seat #9 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [6d 2h] ScientistSET folds PunkinBear folds
Not quite what I'm looking to push with yet.
ludedude128 raises to 600
Lude's raise from late position with A9o makes sense here, based on hand strength.
race62 folds babyfeeg folds tommyk raises to 630, and is all in
It's 430 more for Tommyk to shove, and since the pot will be 1360 when Lude calls, Tommyk needs a 31.8% chance (430/1360) to make this call. With 88 he has that easily. Good call.
A good call from the BB ludedude128 calls 30 tommyk shows [8h 8s] ludedude128 shows [As 9d] *** FLOP *** [7s 7c Ad] *** TURN *** [7s 7c Ad] [Qc] *** RIVER *** [7s 7c Ad Qc] [Kh] tommyk shows two pair, Eights and Sevens ludedude128 shows two pair, Aces and Sevens ludedude128 wins the pot (1,360) with two pair, Aces and Sevens *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1,360 | Rake 0 Board: [7s 7c Ad Qc Kh] Seat 1: babyfeeg (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 2: tommyk (big blind) showed [8h 8s] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sevens Seat 3: ScientistSET didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: ludedude128 showed [As 9d] and won (1,360) with two pair, Aces and Sevens Seat 9: race62 (button) didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 38 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155153771: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 1:58:02 ET
Seat 1: babyfeeg (1,360) Seat 3: ScientistSET (1,735) Seat 6: PunkinBear (4,450) Seat 8: ludedude128 (3,160) Seat 9: race62 (2,795) ScientistSET posts the big blind of 200 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [Td Jc] PunkinBear folds ludedude128 raises to 800 race62 folds babyfeeg folds ScientistSET has 15 seconds left to act ScientistSET has timed out ScientistSET folds Uncalled bet of 600 returned to ludedude128 ludedude128 shows [7d 7h] (a pair of Sevens) ludedude128 wins the pot (400) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 400 | Rake 0 Seat 1: babyfeeg (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 3: ScientistSET (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 6: PunkinBear didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: ludedude128 collected (400) Seat 9: race62 didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 39 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155156713: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 120/240 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 1:58:50 ET
Seat 1: babyfeeg (1,360) Seat 3: ScientistSET (1,535), is sitting out Seat 6: PunkinBear (4,450) Seat 8: ludedude128 (3,360) Seat 9: race62 (2,795) ScientistSET posts the small blind of 120 PunkinBear posts the big blind of 240 The button is in seat #2 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [8c 7c] ludedude128 folds race62 folds babyfeeg folds ScientistSET folds Uncalled bet of 120 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (240) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 240 | Rake 0 Seat 1: babyfeeg didn't bet (folded) Seat 3: ScientistSET (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 6: PunkinBear (big blind) collected (240) Seat 8: ludedude128 didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: race62 didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 40 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155157492: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 120/240 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 1:59:02 ET
Seat 1: babyfeeg (1,360) Seat 3: ScientistSET (1,415) Seat 6: PunkinBear (4,570) Seat 8: ludedude128 (3,360) Seat 9: race62 (2,795) PunkinBear posts the small blind of 120 ludedude128 posts the big blind of 240 The button is in seat #3 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [Th As] race62 folds babyfeeg folds ScientistSET folds PunkinBear raises to 720
Standard raise with ATo.
ludedude128 folds Uncalled bet of 480 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (480) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 480 | Rake 0 Seat 1: babyfeeg didn't bet (folded) Seat 3: ScientistSET (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear (small blind) collected (480) Seat 8: ludedude128 (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 9: race62 didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 41 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155158542: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 120/240 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 1:59:19 ET
Seat 1: babyfeeg (1,360) Seat 3: ScientistSET (1,415) Seat 6: PunkinBear (4,810) Seat 8: ludedude128 (3,120) Seat 9: race62 (2,795) ludedude128 posts the small blind of 120 race62 posts the big blind of 240 The button is in seat #6 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [6h 2s] babyfeeg folds ScientistSET has 15 seconds left to act ScientistSET has timed out ScientistSET folds PunkinBear raises to 720
From the button, I can raise any two cards here because I am playing against the midstack, ang both shortstacks are out of the hand already. Since BB folds KJ, and hasn't shown tendencies to reraise with nothing, it's go time! The fact that I have any cards at all is a mere bonus.
ludedude128 folds race62 folds Uncalled bet of 480 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (600) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 600 | Rake 0 Seat 1: babyfeeg didn't bet (folded) Seat 3: ScientistSET didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear (button) collected (600) Seat 8: ludedude128 (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 9: race62 (big blind) folded before the Flop
*********** # 42 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155161482: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 120/240 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:00:07 ET
Seat 1: babyfeeg (1,360) Seat 3: ScientistSET (1,415), is sitting out Seat 6: PunkinBear (5,170) Seat 8: ludedude128 (3,000) Seat 9: race62 (2,555) race62 posts the small blind of 120 babyfeeg posts the big blind of 240 The button is in seat #8 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [2c 4s] ScientistSET folds PunkinBear folds
Raising against the shortstack isn't the right play. They have the least to lose by trying to double thru me. Concentrate on the midstacks.
ludedude128 raises to 480
Note the minraise instead of 3x. This is usually weak, but be very careful not to assume a minraise is weak for sure.
race62 folds babyfeeg folds Uncalled bet of 240 returned to ludedude128 ludedude128 mucks ludedude128 wins the pot (600) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 600 | Rake 0 Seat 1: babyfeeg (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 3: ScientistSET didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: ludedude128 (button) collected (600) Seat 9: race62 (small blind) folded before the Flop
*********** # 43 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155162724: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 120/240 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:00:27 ET
Seat 1: babyfeeg (1,120) Seat 3: ScientistSET (1,415) Seat 6: PunkinBear (5,170) Seat 8: ludedude128 (3,360) Seat 9: race62 (2,435) babyfeeg posts the small blind of 120 ScientistSET posts the big blind of 240 The button is in seat #9 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [5d Kd] PunkinBear folds ludedude128 raises to 1,000
4x with ATo. Good time to raise, but I dislike the amount. 3x will do. This raise effectively gives race the chance to shove, potcommitting Lude. If he reraises 3x, he can get away if race reraises. Since race has not shown a propensity to raise with nothing, ensuring you are not pot committed here is the best way.
race62 folds babyfeeg raises to 1,120, and is all in
Great call with JJ, based on a prior read of an A9 raise by lude. Time to take a stand.
ScientistSET folds ludedude128 calls 120 babyfeeg shows [Jd Js] ludedude128 shows [Tc Ad] *** FLOP *** [7c 5c Ac] *** TURN *** [7c 5c Ac] [9c] *** RIVER *** [7c 5c Ac 9c] [Ts] babyfeeg shows a pair of Jacks ludedude128 shows a flush, Ace high ludedude128 wins the pot (2,480) with a flush, Ace high *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 2,480 | Rake 0 Board: [7c 5c Ac 9c Ts] Seat 1: babyfeeg (small blind) showed [Jd Js] and lost with a pair of Jacks Seat 3: ScientistSET (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 6: PunkinBear didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: ludedude128 showed [Tc Ad] and won (2,480) with a flush, Ace high Seat 9: race62 (button) didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 44 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155164969: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 120/240 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:01:05 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (1,175) Seat 6: PunkinBear (5,170) Seat 8: ludedude128 (4,720) Seat 9: race62 (2,435) ScientistSET posts the small blind of 120 PunkinBear posts the big blind of 240 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [Tc 6h] ludedude128 folds race62 folds ScientistSET folds Uncalled bet of 120 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (240) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 240 | Rake 0 Seat 3: ScientistSET (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 6: PunkinBear (big blind) collected (240) Seat 8: ludedude128 didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: race62 didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 45 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155165648: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 120/240 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:01:16 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (1,055) Seat 6: PunkinBear (5,290) Seat 8: ludedude128 (4,720) Seat 9: race62 (2,435) PunkinBear posts the small blind of 120 ludedude128 posts the big blind of 240 The button is in seat #3 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [Ah 7d] race62 raises to 480
This UTG minimum raise means one of two things:
- He is slowplaying a monster (AA-KK) - He has a "sort of" good hand that he doesn't want to commit himself with, being that there is an alive shortstack. (Q9+, K8+, A2-A9, 22-66)
Note: I put A10-AK, 77-QQ out of his range here. Most likely he will raise more with these strong but vulnerable holdings.
ScientistSET folds PunkinBear folds
With the range above, and the likelihood that Race FEARS not cashing, I should reraise because most likely the only hands in his range that he calls are AA-KK. If he is particularly loose for this level, which we haven't seen an indication of, he will also call KQ, A9, 22-66. The A7 I have defends nicely against all but the A9. Reraise to 1440 is the correct play with the shortstack still alive. If Science wasn't here, fold is best.
I missed this spot, because race would lay down to a reraise more often than 75% of the time, given the range that I put him on.
ludedude128 calls 240 *** FLOP *** [8h 8c 3h] ludedude128 checks race62 checks *** TURN *** [8h 8c 3h] [2c] ludedude128 bets 500 race62 calls 500 *** RIVER *** [8h 8c 3h 2c] [8d] ludedude128 has 15 seconds left to act ludedude128 bets 1,680 race62 folds Uncalled bet of 1,680 returned to ludedude128 ludedude128 mucks ludedude128 wins the pot (2,080) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 2,080 | Rake 0 Board: [8h 8c 3h 2c 8d] Seat 3: ScientistSET (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 8: ludedude128 (big blind) collected (2,080) Seat 9: race62 folded on the River
*********** # 46 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155169746: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 150/300 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:02:25 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (1,055) Seat 6: PunkinBear (5,170) Seat 8: ludedude128 (5,820) Seat 9: race62 (1,455) ludedude128 posts the small blind of 150 race62 posts the big blind of 300 The button is in seat #6 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [3s 7h] ScientistSET folds PunkinBear raises to 900
Race will likely fight to stay alive (FEAR) and will fold 75% of the time.
ludedude128 folds race62 folds Uncalled bet of 600 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (750) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 750 | Rake 0 Seat 3: ScientistSET didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear (button) collected (750) Seat 8: ludedude128 (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 9: race62 (big blind) folded before the Flop
*********** # 47 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155170692: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 150/300 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:02:40 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (1,055) Seat 6: PunkinBear (5,620) Seat 8: ludedude128 (5,670) Seat 9: race62 (1,155) race62 posts the small blind of 150 ScientistSET posts the big blind of 300 The button is in seat #8 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [3s Qs] PunkinBear raises to 900
This play is read based, because science and race have both shown no willingness to risk not cashing, and have the FEAR.
ludedude128 folds race62 folds ScientistSET folds Uncalled bet of 600 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (750) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 750 | Rake 0 Seat 3: ScientistSET (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 6: PunkinBear collected (750) Seat 8: ludedude128 (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: race62 (small blind) folded before the Flop
*********** # 48 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155171456: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 150/300 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:02:53 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (755) Seat 6: PunkinBear (6,070) Seat 8: ludedude128 (5,670) Seat 9: race62 (1,005) ScientistSET posts the small blind of 150 PunkinBear posts the big blind of 300 The button is in seat #9 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [6s 4d] ludedude128 folds race62 folds ScientistSET folds Uncalled bet of 150 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (300) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 300 | Rake 0 Seat 3: ScientistSET (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 6: PunkinBear (big blind) collected (300) Seat 8: ludedude128 didn't bet (folded) Seat 9: race62 (button) didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 49 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155171936: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 150/300 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:03:02 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (605) Seat 6: PunkinBear (6,220) Seat 8: ludedude128 (5,670) Seat 9: race62 (1,005) PunkinBear posts the small blind of 150 ludedude128 posts the big blind of 300 The button is in seat #3 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [8c 4d] race62 folds ScientistSET folds PunkinBear raises to 900
Lude hasn't played back at anyone yet, so a raise makes sense, given his stack size and a FEAR of playing the chipleader.
ludedude128 folds Uncalled bet of 600 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (600) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 600 | Rake 0 Seat 3: ScientistSET (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear (small blind) collected (600) Seat 8: ludedude128 (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 9: race62 didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 50 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155172765: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 150/300 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:03:17 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (605) Seat 6: PunkinBear (6,520) Seat 8: ludedude128 (5,370) Seat 9: race62 (1,005) ludedude128 posts the small blind of 150 race62 posts the big blind of 300 The button is in seat #6 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [4c 3c] ScientistSET folds PunkinBear raises to 900
Race is short, but with science in, they are fighting for third. FEAR of not cashing leads to yet another position raise.
ludedude128 folds
This is a mistake. Since I have been involved very often, I must have a wide range of hands, and would have to fold 75%+ of the time to a reraise. Lude should reraise with any two. Since he's not playing back, I'm shooting all day long.
race62 folds Uncalled bet of 600 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (750) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 750 | Rake 0 Seat 3: ScientistSET didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear (button) collected (750) Seat 8: ludedude128 (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 9: race62 (big blind) folded before the Flop
*********** # 51 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155173767: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 150/300 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:03:34 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (605) Seat 6: PunkinBear (6,970) Seat 8: ludedude128 (5,220) Seat 9: race62 (705) race62 posts the small blind of 150 ScientistSET posts the big blind of 300 The button is in seat #8 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [As 5s] PunkinBear raises to 900
Here, Science is in the BB, and is committed. I am raising on hand strength only.
ludedude128 raises to 1,500
Lude reraises and plays back for the first time. I assume he has a very good hand (big pair, AK, AQ). His bet is horrible though, as I must call 600 more to see a pot of what will be 3450, and a flop.
race62 folds ScientistSET folds PunkinBear calls 600 *** FLOP *** [8d Ts Qh] PunkinBear checks
This flop is no good. I check, intending to fold to any bet.
ludedude128 checks
Since there are draws out there and slowplaying gives away free cards, I must assume that Lude missed. AK is the most likely scenario. 77, 99 are possibilities, as is AJ.
*** TURN *** [8d Ts Qh] [Ks]
The turn is a double edged sword. It gives me a 26% one card nut draw. However, the King very likely improved lude's hand.
PunkinBear checks
I check, trying to keep the pot small, hoping Lude will make a bet-sizing error.
ludedude128 bets 1,000
Which is a bet-sizing error. Lude should fire a real bet at this. FEAR.
PunkinBear raises to 5,470, and is all in
I have 3 options here, fold, call, raise allin....let's look at all three:
Call:
I only need a 18% chance of winning the hand to make this call because 1000 (my call) is 18% of what the pot will be if I call (5450). My draw is worth 26%. If I was last to act on the next betting round, this would be my choice, because I would have that extra read.
Fold:
Since we have determined that calling gives us an 8% edge, folding is out of the question. The fold is too weak here.
Reraise allin:
If I reraise allin, my bet is effectively 3700 into a pot of 5450. I only need to make him fold 38% of the time with this bet. I do not believe I have that much chance here. However, when you subtract the 26% chance I have of making my hand, he must fold merely 12% of the time for this shove to work!
Given these factors:
- He has been playing scared, and FEARS not cashing. - My checkraise reps a real hand. - My AK read might be off.
I easily have the 12% I need. Since I am out of position, this is the play I use, effectively removing any position advantage he has on the river.
ludedude128 has 15 seconds left to act ludedude128 folds Uncalled bet of 4,470 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (5,450) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 5,450 | Rake 0 Board: [8d Ts Qh Ks] Seat 3: ScientistSET (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 6: PunkinBear collected (5,450) Seat 8: ludedude128 (button) folded on the Turn Seat 9: race62 (small blind) folded before the Flop
*********** # 52 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155178415: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 200/400 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:04:54 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (305) Seat 6: PunkinBear (9,920) Seat 8: ludedude128 (2,720) Seat 9: race62 (555) ScientistSET posts the small blind of 200 PunkinBear posts the big blind of 400 The button is in seat #9 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [9h 8s] PunkinBear: gf, aj
Doubt this lame chat attempt will work, but why not try?
ludedude128 raises to 800
Lude minraises. Either monster, or just an above average hand. More likely just above average.
race62 folds ScientistSET folds PunkinBear raises to 9,920, and is all in
Lude will fold all but the very best hands here, so I force him to play for every chip he has and risk not cashing.
ludedude128 has 15 seconds left to act ludedude128 folds Uncalled bet of 9,120 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (1,800) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1,800 | Rake 0 Seat 3: ScientistSET (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 6: PunkinBear (big blind) collected (1,800) Seat 8: ludedude128 folded before the Flop Seat 9: race62 (button) didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 53 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155180891: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 200/400 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:05:38 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (105) Seat 6: PunkinBear (10,920) Seat 8: ludedude128 (1,920) Seat 9: race62 (555) PunkinBear posts the small blind of 200 ludedude128 posts the big blind of 400 The button is in seat #3 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [9h Qh] race62 folds ScientistSET folds PunkinBear raises to 1,920
With Lude's stack safely above both shortstacks, he must fold nearly every hand.
ludedude128 folds Uncalled bet of 1,520 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (800) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 800 | Rake 0 Seat 3: ScientistSET (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear (small blind) collected (800) Seat 8: ludedude128 (big blind) folded before the Flop Seat 9: race62 didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 54 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155181988: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 200/400 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:05:56 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (105) Seat 6: PunkinBear (11,320) Seat 8: ludedude128 (1,520) Seat 9: race62 (555) ludedude128 posts the small blind of 200 race62 posts the big blind of 400 The button is in seat #6 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [Qh 8h] ScientistSET folds PunkinBear raises to 1,520
With Lude's stack safely above both shorty's, he must fold nearly every hand....again.
ludedude128 folds race62 calls 155, and is all in PunkinBear shows [Qh 8h] race62 shows [6h 4h] Uncalled bet of 965 returned to PunkinBear *** FLOP *** [7s Ad 4d] *** TURN *** [7s Ad 4d] [Qc] *** RIVER *** [7s Ad 4d Qc] [Tc] PunkinBear shows a pair of Queens race62 shows a pair of Fours PunkinBear wins the pot (1,310) with a pair of Queens *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1,310 | Rake 0 Board: [7s Ad 4d Qc Tc] Seat 3: ScientistSET didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear (button) showed [Qh 8h] and won (1,310) with a pair of Queens Seat 8: ludedude128 (small blind) folded before the Flop Seat 9: race62 (big blind) showed [6h 4h] and lost with a pair of Fours
*********** # 55 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155183627: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 200/400 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:06:25 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (105) Seat 6: PunkinBear (12,075) Seat 8: ludedude128 (1,320) ScientistSET posts the big blind of 105, and is all in The button is in seat #8 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [4d Ah] PunkinBear calls 400
Here, with the BB allin, I certainly have a strong enough hand to raise three handed. However I choose instead to limp...why would I do something so silly?
ludedude128 calls 400
To invite lude into the hand....
*** FLOP *** [2d 8d 7h] PunkinBear bets 11,675, and is all in
So I can blow him out and force him to risk third.
ludedude128 folds PunkinBear shows [4d Ah] ScientistSET shows [9d 7s] Uncalled bet of 11,675 returned to PunkinBear *** TURN *** [2d 8d 7h] [6d] *** RIVER *** [2d 8d 7h 6d] [Th] PunkinBear wins the side pot (590) PunkinBear shows Ace Ten high ScientistSET shows a straight, Ten high ScientistSET wins the main pot (315) with a straight, Ten high
A4 loses to 97, and I win 190 chips anyway.
*** SUMMARY *** Total pot 905 Main pot 315. Side pot 590. | Rake 0 Board: [2d 8d 7h 6d Th] Seat 3: ScientistSET (big blind) showed [9d 7s] and won (315) with a straight, Ten high Seat 6: PunkinBear showed [4d Ah] and won (590) with Ace Ten high Seat 8: ludedude128 (button) folded on the Flop
*********** # 56 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155186224: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 200/400 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:07:09 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (315) Seat 6: PunkinBear (12,265) Seat 8: ludedude128 (920) ScientistSET posts the small blind of 200 PunkinBear posts the big blind of 400 The button is in seat #9 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [Js 6d] ludedude128 folds ScientistSET calls 115, and is all in ScientistSET shows [3d 4c] PunkinBear shows [Js 6d] Uncalled bet of 85 returned to PunkinBear *** FLOP *** [Qd As 4s] *** TURN *** [Qd As 4s] [Ks] *** RIVER *** [Qd As 4s Ks] [5c] ScientistSET shows a pair of Fours PunkinBear shows Ace King high ScientistSET wins the pot (630) with a pair of Fours PunkinBear: gh *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 630 | Rake 0 Board: [Qd As 4s Ks 5c] Seat 3: ScientistSET (small blind) showed [3d 4c] and won (630) with a pair of Fours Seat 6: PunkinBear (big blind) showed [Js 6d] and lost with Ace King high Seat 8: ludedude128 didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 57 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155187906: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 250/500 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:07:38 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (630) Seat 6: PunkinBear (11,950) Seat 8: ludedude128 (920) PunkinBear posts the small blind of 250 ludedude128 posts the big blind of 500 The button is in seat #3 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [4h 3s] ScientistSET folds PunkinBear raises to 1,000
Playing off FEAR one last time here. They are fighting for 2nd. I am getting good odds if he calls.
ludedude128 folds Uncalled bet of 500 returned to PunkinBear PunkinBear mucks PunkinBear wins the pot (1,000) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1,000 | Rake 0 Seat 3: ScientistSET (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 6: PunkinBear (small blind) collected (1,000) Seat 8: ludedude128 (big blind) folded before the Flop
*********** # 58 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155188734: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 250/500 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:07:53 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (630) Seat 6: PunkinBear (12,450) Seat 8: ludedude128 (420) ludedude128 posts the small blind of 250 ScientistSET posts the big blind of 500 The button is in seat #6 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [2d 6s] PunkinBear folds ludedude128 calls 170, and is all in ludedude128 shows [Kh 9h] ScientistSET shows [4c Ts] Uncalled bet of 80 returned to ScientistSET *** FLOP *** [7s 9c Kd] *** TURN *** [7s 9c Kd] [8d] *** RIVER *** [7s 9c Kd 8d] [7c] ludedude128 shows two pair, Kings and Nines ScientistSET shows a pair of Sevens ludedude128 wins the pot (840) with two pair, Kings and Nines *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 840 | Rake 0 Board: [7s 9c Kd 8d 7c] Seat 3: ScientistSET (big blind) showed [4c Ts] and lost with a pair of Sevens Seat 6: PunkinBear (button) didn't bet (folded) Seat 8: ludedude128 (small blind) showed [Kh 9h] and won (840) with two pair, Kings and Nines
*********** # 59 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155190131: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 250/500 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:08:17 ET
Seat 3: ScientistSET (210) Seat 6: PunkinBear (12,450) Seat 8: ludedude128 (840) ScientistSET posts the small blind of 210, and is all in PunkinBear posts the big blind of 500 The button is in seat #8 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [Qd Ad] ludedude128 folds ScientistSET shows [Ac 7h] PunkinBear shows [Qd Ad] Uncalled bet of 290 returned to PunkinBear *** FLOP *** [6h 8c Jc] *** TURN *** [6h 8c Jc] [6d] *** RIVER *** [6h 8c Jc 6d] [Ts] ScientistSET shows a pair of Sixes PunkinBear shows a pair of Sixes PunkinBear wins the pot (420) with a pair of Sixes *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 420 | Rake 0 Board: [6h 8c Jc 6d Ts] Seat 3: ScientistSET (small blind) showed [Ac 7h] and lost with a pair of Sixes Seat 6: PunkinBear (big blind) showed [Qd Ad] and won (420) with a pair of Sixes Seat 8: ludedude128 (button) didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 60 ************** FullTiltPoker Game #1155191379: $11 + $1 Sit & Go (Turbo) (7902293) - 250/500 - No Limit Hold'em - 2006/10/27 - 2:08:39 ET
Seat 6: PunkinBear (12,660) Seat 8: ludedude128 (840) PunkinBear posts the small blind of 250 ludedude128 posts the big blind of 500 The button is in seat #6 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to PunkinBear [Js Td] PunkinBear raises to 1,000 ludedude128 calls 340, and is all in PunkinBear shows [Js Td] ludedude128 shows [Ah Kd] Uncalled bet of 160 returned to PunkinBear *** FLOP *** [4h 6c 4s] *** TURN *** [4h 6c 4s] [2d] *** RIVER *** [4h 6c 4s 2d] [Tc] PunkinBear shows two pair, Tens and Fours ludedude128 shows a pair of Fours PunkinBear wins the pot (1,680) with two pair, Tens and Fours *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 1,680 | Rake 0 Board: [4h 6c 4s 2d Tc] Seat 6: PunkinBear (small blind) showed [Js Td] and won (1,680) with two pair, Tens and Fours Seat 8: ludedude128 (big blind) showed [Ah Kd] and got pwned.
The moral of the story, is to apply pressure until you suspect your opponents will play back with nothing. Hope you had fun, and learned something!
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