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Well I have taken the leap/plunge/jump whatever; and quit my full time job to try and do this poker thing exclusively as my sole income...Not sure why i'm posting this here, I'm sure nobody cares, but I felt like I needed to tell some people and this is the only place that made sense..So, yeah, I'm not the really the type of personality to take such huge risks and leave a very nice steady income, but here goes nothing...Any advice (besides go back to my job)
F 9-5's
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Nato76
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06-21-2005 4:25 PM
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Are you this positive all the time? I think it's great. I really need to work on my attitude to be more like yours. I really believe that if you are negative then negative things will happen and vice versa.
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iis612
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06-21-2005 4:26 PM
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we play 3 sites constantly, with buy ins ranging from $3 to $50. We average $850 a day.
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I am 21 years old, and have a max of 1.1k in bills a month...I have made this decision because; On my worst months, I have made atleast enough to cover the bills, and I'm doing it playing poker!!! Not getting up to an alarm when someone else says I have to! So, my reasoning behind is that if i can take advantage of the extreme amount of money out there to be won and to do this as my sole income..why not?!?! Worst case scenario I continue to grind out my 100 bucks a day and make 2-3k a month and still pay the bills doing something I love, not something I "have" to.
Nevermind worst case scenario I lose it all,go pick up the sandwich i threw at NSXT under that bridge and eat it myself, and him and I can come up w/ devious plots to pillage the bridge-crossers.
F...um....F me for being a quitter
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I wish you the best of luck tranquil...I have been out here (vegas) for almost a month now, and while i have a "job", I play every day as my major source of income (not Omaha, as you can tell from my interview with Brunson). I have already experienced major swings (up 7K one week, down 3K the next, etc etc) but I have to say I have never been happier in my life. Even during the tough loses (for instance losing 1200 to a one outer strait flush on the river), I think about the people who are spending their time doing things they don't love and I do my best to laugh off the bad beats like NSXT2 said. The advice he gave is so important and is what you should listen to in IMO. I have met, spoken to and hung out with TONS of young pros (pros in this case meaning any player making his sole income playing poker) and the successful ones have one thing in common...they realize where they are and what they are doing, and they are enjoying the SH*T out of it. Be realistic about your financial situation (as it seems you already have), be smart with your money and DON'T play above what your bankroll allows you to play. Best of luck and if you make it out to vegas shoot me an email (thatreporterguy@hotmail.com)
rich
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NSXT2
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06-21-2005 5:16 PM
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everything I said reamins true, however, I did not realize that you were 21 and just hated working for someone else and getting up in the mornings.... these are perks, not reasons. You need to set loftier goals than to make 2-3k per month. That'll work for now but creates nofuture. What happens in 5-10 yrs.? You end up in the situations jsbyun talks about. Be careful. Who knows what doors open withing those years but if they don't, be prepared.
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2-3k is not the goal, that was an "I suck, and can only grind out a living" scenario...I definitely plan on being more successful than that
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A speech I recently read by Steve Jobs was one of the best pieces I have ever come across. A truly great read.
http://news-service.stanford.edu/news/2005/june15/jobs-061505.html
I don't know any of you, but I think it fits this thread well. TC, good luck to you.
-trplthrt
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First of all Great Picture TC.
When I wrote my other long post I was not speaking directly to you TC because I don't know you. THere are many young people who are thinking of going pro just like you so I was trying to balance all the BS smoke with some reality for them. Maybe they are thinking of giving up an education, job, career etc. to become the next Bax. They decide in part because of hearing all the success stories on TV and the internet. Other players give them rockstar status. But all stars eventually burn out.
THere is a lot of bragging about $20k beds, Huge TV's, profiting $20k per month and a lot of other BS. Not that these guys haven't made that kind of money, but you ONLY hear about the successes. For every success story there are many sad stories of people giving up a bright future to become an eventual poker bum. Two years later they have no meaningful relationships with their families, have no money, are embarassed to go to Thanksgiving dinner because they owe most of the people there money, have no health benefits, no retirement savings, shot their credit report, and wish they would have never heard of internet poker. Maybe you won't be one of them but many will.
NSXT is a very good poker player and business man. He also seems genuinly interested in helping people but he is not helping when he only gives the positives of going full time pro.. Remember, he has another job teaching people about poker and charging dozens of people hundreds, even thousands, of dollars. I am sure it is well worth it but he still has another job besides playing poker. Same with SHEETS and DUFF and many others having an education, a real career, and playing poker for tens of thousands of dollars in profit per year. Don't you think this is a better way to go?
Sure, a positive attitude is very important but so is balanced advice.
I truly hope you make me eat my words. Good luck to you.
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Good post, definitely some of the most realistic/balanced advice I've
seen. I would like to withhold my two cents on this issue for basically
the same reason as jsbyun.
TC, do you have a college education, was your job
paying more than your "worst-case" 3k per month, how will your family
feel about you're decision.
I realize all of these things may not matter to you, but they are definitely things to consider.
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NSXT2
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06-22-2005 10:55 AM
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i agree with niptuck and everyone else's realistic advice. See my latest post above. I always tell players to make their BR outside of poker beforehand and make sure it's big. Also, having worked hard for many years before 'poker as a career' allowed me to have a nice 401k. I recommend having one or creating one for you at 21 as well.
My earlier posts were simple. Be positive first cos regardless of realities, without positivity, you are dead from the start.
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Wow, that was deep! I can't really relate this without sounding like I want to pick out curtains with you, but that may have been a life-altering read for me.
go on with your bad-self NSXT.
-N
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