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The most over-rated poker player???
pez102 (United Kingdom) 124 Posts. Joined 03-23-2008.
10-18-2008 1:48 AM



Actually dont know if many people know of her but Vicky coren is just the worst, o yeh michael grecho too grrr that guy bugs me too much

 
 
 

Gettin Daize (United States) 918 Posts. Joined 04-22-2007.
10-18-2008 1:54 AM - In reply to
35

phil hellmuth and its not even close


heavyj80 (United States) 13,670 Posts. Joined 08-22-2007.
10-18-2008 1:55 AM - In reply to

  sigh


gamb0holic (United States) 202 Posts. Joined 08-12-2008.
10-18-2008 1:56 AM - In reply to

jackie robinson 


meccabush (United States) 1,232 Posts. Joined 01-15-2008.
10-18-2008 1:59 AM - In reply to

 Barack Obama


swd805 (United States) 2,145 Posts. Joined 08-05-2007.
10-18-2008 2:07 AM - In reply to

Gettin Daize: 

phil hellmuth and its not even close


qjuice14 (United States) 2,092 Posts. Joined 08-29-2007.
10-18-2008 2:13 AM - In reply to

 

Gettin Daize: 

phil hellmuth and its not even close



One could make an argument that he is both the most overrated and most underrated poker player.  He is clearly overrated in his own mind and that of the media's, but more people on this site think he is bad at poker and really undervalue what he actually does do very well and concentrate on his flaws.

kingcoleo (United States) 341 Posts. Joined 04-15-2008.
10-18-2008 2:15 AM - In reply to

Dmitri Nobles.


Gettin Daize (United States) 918 Posts. Joined 04-22-2007.
10-18-2008 2:36 AM - In reply to
35

 

qjuice14: 

 

Gettin Daize: 

phil hellmuth and its not even close



One could make an argument that he is both the most overrated and most underrated poker player.  He is clearly overrated in his own mind and that of the media's, but more people on this site think he is bad at poker and really undervalue what he actually does do very well and concentrate on his flaws.


I dunno bout this, i just know he plays bad almost everytime i watch it on tv.

Wein (United States) 8,213 Posts. Joined 05-02-2005.
10-18-2008 2:37 AM - In reply to

pez102


AAeveryhand (United States) 213 Posts. Joined 05-30-2008.
10-18-2008 2:42 AM - In reply to

Jose Conseco


Gettin Daize (United States) 918 Posts. Joined 04-22-2007.
10-18-2008 2:45 AM - In reply to
35

im not really focusing on his flaws, I just think he plays hands bad. How many times have u watched him play, and just wondered to urself how he has made so much $$?

last 2 times i watched poker on TV he folded queens pre with like 14 blinds to a single raise. I honestly dont think he understands that he should be playing vs ranges not just putting someone on a single hand and making redic. folds b/c of it

and made a fold with q7dd on a 456dd board with a ton of money already in the pot...how does he not understand u have to call? how can u just go against math? Surely someone who has played for 20 fkin years and made millions could understand that you can't fold there!!!!!!!!!

I'm also pretty sure that he bet/folded the flop with the Q7dd hand, guess its ok to treat ur 14+ outer the same as ur KJo there phill hellmuth did it!


joshinho (Australia) 132 Posts. Joined 10-28-2007.
10-18-2008 3:53 AM - In reply to

Gettin Daize: 


and made a fold with q7dd on a 456dd board with a ton of money already in the pot...how does he not understand u have to call? how can u just go against math? Surely someone who has played for 20 fkin years and made millions could understand that you can't fold there!!!!!!!!!

I'm also pretty sure that he bet/folded the flop with the Q7dd hand, guess its ok to treat ur 14+ outer the same as ur KJo there phill hellmuth did it!



Go against the math? Go and plug in your Q7d on a 4d 5d 6h board against 66, 55 or 44. You're a 60/40 dog you donkey. Phil is good enough (as he showed with his 30th finish) to get his money in better.

DoubleS00ted (Guatemala) 1,668 Posts. Joined 10-22-2006.
10-18-2008 4:10 AM - In reply to

joshinho: 

Gettin Daize: 


and made a fold with q7dd on a 456dd board with a ton of money already in the pot...how does he not understand u have to call? how can u just go against math? Surely someone who has played for 20 fkin years and made millions could understand that you can't fold there!!!!!!!!!

I'm also pretty sure that he bet/folded the flop with the Q7dd hand, guess its ok to treat ur 14+ outer the same as ur KJo there phill hellmuth did it!



Go against the math? Go and plug in your Q7d on a 4d 5d 6h board against 66, 55 or 44. You're a 60/40 dog you donkey. Phil is good enough (as he showed with his 30th finish) to get his money in better.


Lol at calling him a Donkey.. you do know that he is one of the best players on this site right?

HoldemJunkie (United States) 275 Posts. Joined 07-19-2007.
10-18-2008 4:18 AM - In reply to

If you think Phil Helmuth sucks then your out your fkn mind. IMO

 
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