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Well, I guess I have become the reporter everyone trusts to talk about what goes on behind the scenes while protecting my source's identity, as I have been contacted by and had a long conversation with an employee at UB who wished to shed light on the company. Again, I will protect my source and not be releasing his/her name to anyone, ever.
I will list the all the important points from the conversation as best I can.
1. It is possible to have upto 25 usernames registered to 1 players name on UB, they know about this and are ok with it as a company.
2. If someone does have multiple accounts, even if they are registered to the same name and use the same IP address, they are permitted to play at the same table, cash games and sitNgos and tournies. UB knows about this, and are OK with it.
3. Although my source is not sure if hole cards could be seen during the hand by a superuser account, my source does know that as soon as a hand is over with, UB personell has access to see everyones holecards even those that didnt go to showdown. This has been used by some UB higher ups at times while they were playing. Not a direct form of cheating, but definitely an unfair advantage if the person has access to this while playing.
4. A higher level executive was fired not to long ago, because her 19 year old son, who she got a job at UB, was caught cheating games at the UB office. It is unclear to my source if holecards were able to be seen during the hand, but it is a possibility. He definitely was cheating customers somehow, maybe a cobination of the above things mentioned at the very least.
edit: Another close, reliable source has just talked to me and told me "the woman's son had"administrative access" which let him see hole cards." and that the source "wouldn't besurprised if administrative access still exists" The person went on to say "there's also evidence that at least a couple months agoAJ (Green) was overseeing day to day operations"
5. "Someone" was brought on board by UB to help clean up the site. He figured out the problem was that they were using a version of the software from 1998 that had security holes in it(i.e. no security firewalls were/could be put in place) that couldnt be fixed without a complete overhaul of the software, which was estimated at costing 6 million dollars. UB decided it was not in their best interests to upgrade the software.
6. My source also voiced their concern for my safety for vocalizing these points.
I bring this to light because I feel that this is the important stuff that our community needs to be aware of.
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CeJeH
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11-09-2007 11:41 PM
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agreed.
but this post is just 3rd hand rumours, get some evidence if you want to make these types of accusations.
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not tryin to be a dick, but this made me laugh
6. My source also voiced their concern for my safety for vocalizing these points, saying that the owners of the site(Scott Tom et all) are very bad, mafia type people, and would have no problem coming after me.
I bring this to light because I feel that this is the important stuff that our community needs to be aware of.
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You know, just in case Gank is killed we as a community will know who did it! :)
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gank
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11-09-2007 11:47 PM
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MathClub, Not third hand rumors, these are eyewitness accounts. If you want to test out some of these things, feel free. Create new accounts under your name, sit at the same table, etc.
I am not trying to prove anything, I am passing along information that was exclusively given to me, what you choose to do with this information is up to you.
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online poker is rigged!!
wait, someone laughed at someone recently when this was said...........
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like gank has anything 2 gain by doing this...u think he made it up? lol
ty gank
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11-10-2007 1:06 AM
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Yeah....
UB/AP pretty much are the bad sheep of the online poker industry as we know...
Too bad so many players value money over integrity...
Thanks Gank
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dpottz
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11-10-2007 1:09 AM
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pretty sure you can't end up at the same table on UB from the same IP address
i've played at a friend's house, ended up at the same table, and UB literally wouldnt let me connect/sit at the table. that's in a tourney, not a cash game, but i'd think if they're that strict about it in tourneys then they have to be just as strict in cash games
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