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Well, I guess I have become the reporter everyone trusts to talk about what goes on behind the scenes while protecting my source's identity, as I have been contacted by and had a long conversation with an employee at UB who wished to shed light on the company. Again, I will protect my source and not be releasing his/her name to anyone, ever.
I will list the all the important points from the conversation as best I can.
1. It is possible to have upto 25 usernames registered to 1 players name on UB, they know about this and are ok with it as a company.
2. If someone does have multiple accounts, even if they are registered to the same name and use the same IP address, they are permitted to play at the same table, cash games and sitNgos and tournies. UB knows about this, and are OK with it.
3. Although my source is not sure if hole cards could be seen during the hand by a superuser account, my source does know that as soon as a hand is over with, UB personell has access to see everyones holecards even those that didnt go to showdown. This has been used by some UB higher ups at times while they were playing. Not a direct form of cheating, but definitely an unfair advantage if the person has access to this while playing.
4. A higher level executive was fired not to long ago, because her 19 year old son, who she got a job at UB, was caught cheating games at the UB office. It is unclear to my source if holecards were able to be seen during the hand, but it is a possibility. He definitely was cheating customers somehow, maybe a cobination of the above things mentioned at the very least.
edit: Another close, reliable source has just talked to me and told me "the woman's son had"administrative access" which let him see hole cards." and that the source "wouldn't besurprised if administrative access still exists" The person went on to say "there's also evidence that at least a couple months agoAJ (Green) was overseeing day to day operations"
5. "Someone" was brought on board by UB to help clean up the site. He figured out the problem was that they were using a version of the software from 1998 that had security holes in it(i.e. no security firewalls were/could be put in place) that couldnt be fixed without a complete overhaul of the software, which was estimated at costing 6 million dollars. UB decided it was not in their best interests to upgrade the software.
6. My source also voiced their concern for my safety for vocalizing these points.
I bring this to light because I feel that this is the important stuff that our community needs to be aware of.
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this will never get broke wide open though, UB would never send out a HH to someone like AP did, cuz theyve never answered answered an email at all, LOL
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edit: Another close, reliable source has just talked to me and told me "the woman's son had "administrative access" which let him see hole cards." and that the source "wouldn't be surprised if administrative access still exists" The person went on to say "there's also evidence that at least a couple months ago AJ (Green) was overseeing day to day operations"
Jebus, gg UB, hard to believe anyone would play there now.
Thank you Gank for your hard work on this.
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i'm transferring all my money off ub to absolute
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I still anxiously await the refund for the botched omaha tournament.
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I have 3 screen names on UB and have registered them all in the same tourney. I was suprised it worked. This was months ago. I didnt not play them all in the same tourney though,.
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Why is UB advertised on this site after AP was taken off? Guess there was no public outcry for it
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^^^^"mafia type people"
Hmmm...Queen UB Propaganda is from Chicago......YIKES!
LOL - We hang your type 'round here.
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here is the big big difference... ap did nothing about it for the longest time... while on ub...
A higher level executive
was fired not to long ago, because her 19 year old son, who she got a
job at UB, was caught cheating games at the UB office.
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Thanks, Gank, but I've already come to the conclusion (from my experiences there) that UB has got to be shady. I have felt this way for some time, and I no longer play there. Question is, are the UB pros using the ability to cheat? Duke used to be my poker hero. Please tell me she is not one of the cheats.
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Firing the executive really helps to fix the security gap. Right up there with firing a coach because his players use steroids, but letting the players continue to use steroids.
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my source does know that as soon as a hand is over with, UB personell has access to see everyones holecards even those that didnt go to showdown.
errrr. Every site can do this.
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AP's traffic didn't diminish in the light of clear evidence of cheating.
I can't imagine how second/third hand info about cheating would do anything to stop people from playing at UB.
My guess is UB's traffic will only grow larger now that more people know they can multi-account there.
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very interesting post gank
UB has always felt like my online home bc it was the first place i played and the friends i made there have obv been my online poker friends for the longest time
this info pains me and makes me sad I really hope they fix this I would hate for the site to go away
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I don't see what the problem is.
-King Rube.
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its a hell of a lot better than doing nothing and denying there is a problem
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