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Well, I guess I have become the reporter everyone trusts to talk about what goes on behind the scenes while protecting my source's identity, as I have been contacted by and had a long conversation with an employee at UB who wished to shed light on the company. Again, I will protect my source and not be releasing his/her name to anyone, ever.
I will list the all the important points from the conversation as best I can.
1. It is possible to have upto 25 usernames registered to 1 players name on UB, they know about this and are ok with it as a company.
2. If someone does have multiple accounts, even if they are registered to the same name and use the same IP address, they are permitted to play at the same table, cash games and sitNgos and tournies. UB knows about this, and are OK with it.
3. Although my source is not sure if hole cards could be seen during the hand by a superuser account, my source does know that as soon as a hand is over with, UB personell has access to see everyones holecards even those that didnt go to showdown. This has been used by some UB higher ups at times while they were playing. Not a direct form of cheating, but definitely an unfair advantage if the person has access to this while playing.
4. A higher level executive was fired not to long ago, because her 19 year old son, who she got a job at UB, was caught cheating games at the UB office. It is unclear to my source if holecards were able to be seen during the hand, but it is a possibility. He definitely was cheating customers somehow, maybe a cobination of the above things mentioned at the very least.
edit: Another close, reliable source has just talked to me and told me "the woman's son had"administrative access" which let him see hole cards." and that the source "wouldn't besurprised if administrative access still exists" The person went on to say "there's also evidence that at least a couple months agoAJ (Green) was overseeing day to day operations"
5. "Someone" was brought on board by UB to help clean up the site. He figured out the problem was that they were using a version of the software from 1998 that had security holes in it(i.e. no security firewalls were/could be put in place) that couldnt be fixed without a complete overhaul of the software, which was estimated at costing 6 million dollars. UB decided it was not in their best interests to upgrade the software.
6. My source also voiced their concern for my safety for vocalizing these points.
I bring this to light because I feel that this is the important stuff that our community needs to be aware of.
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Anyone who plays on UB or AP is an idiot.
For the record, I have been saying that for months. Why play at places that suck ass?
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Bigz
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11-10-2007 1:00 PM
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lol stlnate , this sounds about right for UB so im takin it the 3k i lost in BJ on UB was riged also sweet, sounds like ill open up 25 accts an start colluding toget it back. wonder how many phil plays wit
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"AP's traffic didn't diminish in the light of clear evidence of cheating."
Of course it didn't. The word never really got out about the cheating scandal. Lots of people really never even knew about it that were still playing on there.
Lots of people that knew about it continued to play on it. Last 1K bounty had like 113 players. People must feel its safe to return now.
nh AP.
its in the best interest of the poker community that AP not get hit to hard. It certainly would not benefit P5 or 2+2 to see this thing get to far out of control. A strike against AP is a strike against online poker.
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blah blah blah... gank's reporting is just as reliable as that of the National Enquirer.
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and the UB nutswinger speaks.....
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"5. Chris Welch, a former
employee of Pokerstars, was brought on board by UB to help clean up the
site. He figured out the problem was that they were using a version of
the software from 1998 that had security holes in it(i.e. no security
firewalls were/could be put in place) that couldnt be fixed without a
complete overhaul of the software, which was estimated at costing 6
million dollars. UB decided it was not in their best interests to
upgrade the software."
Why should they update it. No one is going to make them and they still get their rake. After the AP fiasco had no long term effect on AP, why should UB make a change even aftert his is revealed.
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"Well, I guess I have become the reporter everyone trusts to talk about what goes on behind the scenes while protecting my source's identity"
lol.
the sick part is that some people might not realize you're joking.
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Reech
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11-10-2007 3:26 PM
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Well, at this point, I think it's wise to start questioning it all. Is FT or PS or Bodog any better? are their owners any less greedy? Can we ask for assurances that their security hasn't been compromised? I'm no tinfoil hat guy, but if we're not calling everything into question at this point aren't we just being naive? I love playing poker live and online, and I do just fine, but I would think if i were running a poker site and wanted to keep my customers, I'd send them all a mail saying 'We've reviewed our security procedures, our RNG, and our staff and want to assure all of our loyal players that what is happening on other sites CAN'T and Won't happen here." Not that i'd necessarily believe THAT.
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Where are the moderators, just disable his posting ability.
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the enquirer took down dog the bounty hunter
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any who says "anyone who plays on UB or AP is an idiot" is an idiot.
For the record I have been saying this for months. Why make posts that suck ass?
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Bigz
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11-10-2007 6:56 PM
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its watergate all over again GO DICK
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Hell, I've been saying it for YEARS
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