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Well, I guess I have become the reporter everyone trusts to talk about what goes on behind the scenes while protecting my source's identity, as I have been contacted by and had a long conversation with an employee at UB who wished to shed light on the company. Again, I will protect my source and not be releasing his/her name to anyone, ever.
I will list the all the important points from the conversation as best I can.
1. It is possible to have upto 25 usernames registered to 1 players name on UB, they know about this and are ok with it as a company.
2. If someone does have multiple accounts, even if they are registered to the same name and use the same IP address, they are permitted to play at the same table, cash games and sitNgos and tournies. UB knows about this, and are OK with it.
3. Although my source is not sure if hole cards could be seen during the hand by a superuser account, my source does know that as soon as a hand is over with, UB personell has access to see everyones holecards even those that didnt go to showdown. This has been used by some UB higher ups at times while they were playing. Not a direct form of cheating, but definitely an unfair advantage if the person has access to this while playing.
4. A higher level executive was fired not to long ago, because her 19 year old son, who she got a job at UB, was caught cheating games at the UB office. It is unclear to my source if holecards were able to be seen during the hand, but it is a possibility. He definitely was cheating customers somehow, maybe a cobination of the above things mentioned at the very least.
edit: Another close, reliable source has just talked to me and told me "the woman's son had"administrative access" which let him see hole cards." and that the source "wouldn't besurprised if administrative access still exists" The person went on to say "there's also evidence that at least a couple months agoAJ (Green) was overseeing day to day operations"
5. "Someone" was brought on board by UB to help clean up the site. He figured out the problem was that they were using a version of the software from 1998 that had security holes in it(i.e. no security firewalls were/could be put in place) that couldnt be fixed without a complete overhaul of the software, which was estimated at costing 6 million dollars. UB decided it was not in their best interests to upgrade the software.
6. My source also voiced their concern for my safety for vocalizing these points.
I bring this to light because I feel that this is the important stuff that our community needs to be aware of.
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meanwhile, you have produced 0 proof to substantiate your claims.
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rube u getting sickening....i was there.....its true.....i think it was chris that said it ..
but what does any it prove?
the issue isn't HOW fkkkd up UB is.....its whether they care to ensure
we all dont get cheated..... have u seen anything along those lines??
if u really in WUV with UB u should help us make it better to ensure
it goes forward not any further backwards.....
being u are mr ub now im surprised i never met u in any of the meetings
we had for 2 years.....
and why after the AP situation do u not agree that all us onliners should
be skeptical about these possibilities
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If this is all true I'm sick to my stomach. For right now I am just going to be playing on Full tilt and Pokerstars not ultimate bet.
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gank, king rube, etc. ???
I think it would be pretty cool to adress/ debate the integrity of these sites & i find that its hard to get your point across in forums.
What does every1 think?
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and since you're not actually an employee of UB, you've provided no shreds of any evidence to disprove gank either.
you're simply a UB loving idiot who can't accept the fact that they are clearly run by crooks.
king rube = king douchebag.
if gank is lying provide us with some reasons why other than "omg gank is lying i am king rube!!!111"
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tcmeb
(United States)
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11-12-2007 4:42 AM
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king rUBe eh? i think i'm onto something
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i'll defend STARS till the end, but i receive no compensation
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gank
(United States)
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11-12-2007 7:03 PM
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And still King Rube will not answer the last set of questions.
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Compared with the targets of Gank's prior callout posts, these mob guys have guns and shit.
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rube, you my friend, are one huge idiot.
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I think one thing is clear from all of this. King Rube is right and everyone else is wrong.
I invite all of you to come find me on UB so we can play together in a clean, fun, save environment!
I play on UB because they have the fastest software.
GO KING RUBE!!!
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There are a few interesting things here that I've noticed. Sullivan8888 is King Rube's friend, so he really can't give a clear picture on King Rube. I don't know King Rube personally but I do know that he organizes tournaments on UB for him and his friends. He's also somehow been invited to one (or more?) big tournaments by UB. Some were probably won honestly but at least one that I could see was not...unless KR paid cash to UB to be in the tournament (it was at least $8k). Other than this, I don't think King Rube works for UB although he does have a close relationship with someone or multiple people who work there.
I do trust Leggggggggggy as he's been at UB the longest and would know a bit about what is/was going on there.
I played on UB almost since it's inception until about last year. I withdrew all of my money after I saw some strange patterns. I also didn't like their customer service. I also know that security isn't high on UB priority list and as such, even when they know something is wrong...they don't care to fix it. After this whole thing came out with AP, I will never play on UB again and I am a bit happy to realize that I wasn't just having a "gambler's mentality" about the whole thing, after proof of the AP situation.
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