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Todays AP release with some added insight
brsavage (United States) 2,871 Posts. Joined 01-25-2005.
10-21-2007 12:44 PM

 I received word while at lunch that the AP release is due out very shortly. In a nutshell they still have much of the investigation to complete, and that will take time. So far they have definitive proof as to who the culprit was, how he did it, and the fact that he did in fact cash out a significant amount. Further, I am being told that he had more accounts than even we had realized, and they are doing extensive investigations because some of these accounts were attempted to be deleted by him.

 This person was the second in charge and has been fired from AP, and his one superior Scott Tom is going to be removed from running AP for a significant period of time. For legal reasons the AP release is not going to specifically name this person, and I will elaborate on that fact and why it makes perfect sense. Most of us know this persons name already as it has already been widely reported.

 This person was Scott Tom's best friend and actually lived at Scott Tom's house in Costa Rica. Scott Tom has been living in Panama for quite some time, and the day to day operations of AP were left to the care of his best friend and second in charge at AP. Unfortunately since the person in command of AP was also the thief he obviously issued numerous steadfast denials of any wrong doing. Basically he was investigating himself.

 Since this person was a high ranking official he had access to very sensitive information, not only regarding the operations of the company, but also very sensitive information regarding player accounts, balances, names, deposits, withdrawals etc. Because of the Internet Gaming Act their is still a wide gray area as to what is sensitive and what is not. As such the attorneys for both AP and the KGC have the same opinion that is best not to release his name publicly for the simple fact that they do not want more harm being done to the industry as a result of this person possibly trying to disclose this information publicly as a retaliation for him being fired from AP.

 Further, even though Scott Tom was not involved in the actual theft, he is responsible for the actions of his friend and second in charge of the company, which is why he is being removed for a significant time frame while the entire process of restoring trust in AP takes place.

 I am being told that all monies players were cheated out of will be repaid. I also have made strong overtures and recommendations that in any case involving a player being cheated AP should err on the side of caution and compensate the player if their is any doubt that he was affected.

 As I stated before, they already have found several accounts that even we had not known about, and evidence of some accounts that the second in charge tried to delete. All of this investigation is going to take time, but it appears that simply based on this disclosure that they are definitively going to make a concerted effort to make things right.

 Chris.
 
 
 

Stynsty71 (United States) 3,064 Posts. Joined 11-15-2006.
10-21-2007 12:52 PM - In reply to

Great post. Thank you for some actual insight into what is going on.

R_Webb18 (United States) 844 Posts. Joined 06-24-2007.
10-21-2007 12:56 PM - In reply to

so cool i could get more money now who knows get him AP good work

RichardHurtz (Russian Federation) 1,817 Posts. Joined 05-05-2007.
10-21-2007 12:59 PM - In reply to

I thought Scott Tomm Didn't work for AP. Isn't this what AP originally claimed?

As far as not releasing his name, think that destroys their credibility. So much for full disclosure.

Anyone wanna bet that this guy/thief never gets charged with anything?

My gut tells me there is more to the story.

Qhr1s0 (United Kingdom) 5 Posts. Joined 03-23-2006.
10-21-2007 1:03 PM - In reply to

Great post, thank you.

What are the chances of the names of these 'other accounts' being made public by AP/KGC?

KSCKID (United States) 485 Posts. Joined 05-13-2006.
10-21-2007 1:03 PM - In reply to

Whether or not there is more to the story or if he gets charged with anything is kinda out of our hands rich.....the only thing to do is wait it out, i kinda think making a post like this just brings down the fact that something IS actually being done.


chicoflash (United States) 200 Posts. Joined 01-06-2006.
10-21-2007 1:10 PM - In reply to

Poeple keep mentioning in response to this that they are angered by all the previous denials but seem to keep forgetting that the guy doing all of the denying was the one in charge of releasing the statements.  of course he was denying it but at least if what they say is true, he isnt there anymore now. maybe a step in the right direction.
-chicoflash

brsavage (United States) 2,871 Posts. Joined 01-25-2005.
10-21-2007 1:11 PM - In reply to

As I stated before, it was Scott Tom's best friend. Scott Tom has been in Panama for quite some time. Unfortunately since his best friend was second in charge he released statements trying to deny fraud and also to deny involvement of his friend and owner of AP Scott Tom.

ranchgirl (United States) 1,032 Posts. Joined 03-02-2006.
10-21-2007 1:13 PM - In reply to

Chris, from what I know, you are a player and car dealer from Louisiana. 
Why do you have inside information?

RichardHurtz (Russian Federation) 1,817 Posts. Joined 05-05-2007.
10-21-2007 1:22 PM - In reply to

Whether or not there is more to the story or if he gets charged with anything is kinda out of our hands rich.....the only thing to do is wait it out, i kinda think making a post like this just brings down the fact that something IS actually being done.
_______________________

Something was going to be done and AP knew they had to do something. Their business is at stake.

I just dont want to see this whole thing white washed into nothing.

showtime90 (United States) 9,064 Posts. Joined 07-01-2006.
10-21-2007 1:29 PM - In reply to

why does it matter?

BudmansCom (United States) 1,504 Posts. Joined 03-12-2005.
10-21-2007 1:32 PM - In reply to

So "2nd in charge" is also known in the industry as "a consultant"?

RichardHurtz (Russian Federation) 1,817 Posts. Joined 05-05-2007.
10-21-2007 1:34 PM - In reply to

"Unfortunately since his best friend was second in charge he released statements trying to deny fraud and also to deny involvement of his friend and owner of AP Scott Tom."

"I am the former Grand Chief of the Mohawk Territory of Kahnawake and the owner of Tokwiro Enterprises ENRG, which holds a 100% interest in Absolute Poker.

-Joe Norton"

I'm confused. Who owns AP?

tcmeb (United States) 198 Posts. Joined 07-14-2007.
10-21-2007 1:34 PM - In reply to

 


ranchgirl (United States) 1,032 Posts. Joined 03-02-2006.
10-21-2007 1:38 PM - In reply to

What do you mean, "why does it matter?" 
I know Chris was good friends with Shawn Rice.  Shawn used to brag on him like Chris was god, and I always wondered why.  Chris obviously has some sort of inside connection.  I assume his connection is through UB.  I want to know what everyones role is these days. 

Again - Chris, why do you have inside information, and what is your role with UB, as well as AP?
 
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