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What's YOUR play? Settling a disagreement with a friend. SNG players wanted.
Jennifear (United States) 9,650 Posts. Joined 11-01-2005.
11-02-2008 8:14 PM

$15+1 9-man turbo SNG on Pokerstars, 8 players remaining.  Prizes are 67.50/40.50/27.00

I had a disagreement with a friend about this hand, and I want your opinion.  The disagreement wasn't about how to play the hand, but rather about how most people would play it. 

Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: URanIDIOT (1255 in chips)
Seat 2: brakin1 (2910 in chips)
Seat 3: Hero (1250 in chips)
Seat 5: Villain (1670 in chips)
Seat 6: pitharchi (2280 in chips)
Seat 7: RobeConDa (1155 in chips)
Seat 8: Texas_Til (1405 in chips)
Seat 9: NessX (1575 in chips)
Hero: posts small blind 50
Villain: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [3h Kh]
pitharchi: folds
RobeConDa: folds
Texas_Til: folds
NessX: folds
URanIDIOT: folds
brakin1: folds
Hero: ??

What I would like to know from you is:

A. How would you play this hand?
B. How would you expect a random player to play this hand?

Have fun!

*EDIT* The disagreement has been resolved.  Feel free to give your opinions anyway, and for my take on this hand/results of disagreement, see page 3 of this thread

 
 
 

mesaplayeraz (United States) 2,514 Posts. Joined 09-08-2006.
11-02-2008 8:19 PM - In reply to

Jen,

Is this a turbo or non turbo sng?


grapsfan (United States) 6,587 Posts. Joined 06-16-2005.
11-02-2008 8:20 PM - In reply to

It's a turbo....


a) I'm shoving almost every time


b) I think the average player at this level limps 30% of the time, raises 3x the blinds 30% of the time, folds 20% and shoves 20%


Jennifear (United States) 9,650 Posts. Joined 11-01-2005.
11-02-2008 8:21 PM - In reply to

mesaplayeraz: 

Jen,

Is this a turbo or non turbo sng?



Turbo (edited OP to reflect that just now, thank you)

okse54 (United States) 1,279 Posts. Joined 11-28-2007.
11-02-2008 8:23 PM - In reply to

i think i might shove, i think alot of player 3x here

juvie (United States) 276 Posts. Joined 03-06-2007.
11-02-2008 8:23 PM - In reply to

 i shove 100% of the time!


kevin6651 (United States) 525 Posts. Joined 05-06-2005.
11-02-2008 8:24 PM - In reply to

It would depend on what I anticipated the BB's calling range to be.  If he was a tight player all the way to a normal player, I would shove with no thought.  If he was on the looser side and like to make weak calls in the BB, I fold.

I would bet the vast majority of $16 turbo SnG grinders now would shove here 80-90% of the time.


Mrfreeze53 (United States) 370 Posts. Joined 10-01-2007.
11-02-2008 8:24 PM - In reply to

A. Push or fold depending on the table dinamic.  Pushing more then folding though.

B.  Random players would limp 50%, fold 25% and raise to 3 bb's 25%.


LookingFLuck (United States) 269 Posts. Joined 11-22-2007.
11-02-2008 8:27 PM - In reply to

Most players shove here.  I do not know anyone that wouldn't shove a suited K with 12 bb. 


grapsfan (United States) 6,587 Posts. Joined 06-16-2005.
11-02-2008 8:30 PM - In reply to

LookingFLuck: 

I do not know anyone that wouldn't shove a suited K with 12 bb. 




Sure you do, LFL.  They're just not all that good at turbo SNGs, IMO.

thearthurdog (Australia) 1,232 Posts. Joined 01-15-2008.
11-02-2008 8:31 PM - In reply to

With 12.5 BB in that position i'm shoving.

At the $2-$12 buy in level I play, I would see a lot of players fold that, or raise 2x and then fold to a reraise.


peacebrother (United States) 648 Posts. Joined 02-19-2006.
11-02-2008 8:49 PM - In reply to

A) fold

B) flat or 3x

Really depends on how the table is playing


AFink93 (United States) 12,914 Posts. Joined 03-31-2006.
11-02-2008 8:51 PM - In reply to

Id give him a walk most times.


Ship Happens (United States) 7,517 Posts. Joined 11-09-2006.
11-02-2008 8:52 PM - In reply to

me - im raising this to 250 like 85% of the time folding 15% depending on BB

random - id say they fold about 45% limp 45% raise 10%


papoorboy (United States) 86 Posts. Joined 12-06-2005.
11-02-2008 8:53 PM - In reply to

shove. And I don't think it matters if it's a turbo or not. i'm no sng player but the shove seems standard. I think graps answered part b

I think the only way wouldn't shove this is if I knew the player was not a restealer and folded too much. Then I might mix in 2-3x, but in a trubo I suspect that is probably not optimal.

 
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