Poker Discussion Post

Thanks a lot.

Not trying to be rude..I'm just too argumentative by nature and want to understand the game better...I'm surely listening to what everyone has to say and only I know how much I value all these replies, although I may not show it and continue arguing over poker stuff..Thats just me.

Lots of great comments.

I believe he is referring to SNGs which are completely over run with ICM Pushbots these days. I have to admit they are completely aggravating but the edge is those comes in identifying who they are and how they play. Once I spot a Pushbot player I tend to call much more with any ace since I know I have the pre flop edge on most flips.

As long as I get my money in with the best of it when it really matters I know in the long run the odds will swing my way regardless.

AmSlim22:

find one player that is playing perfectly....   

IF everyone played perfectly or the same then yes, you would be correct.  That is certainly not the case.  everyone plays differently and the good players will always make adjustments based on what they see everyone else doing.

the flips deep in a tournament are luck, and that is a big part of poker.  It is only ONE element of the game however...

 graps is one of the nicest guys on this site, and youve tilted him a bit too..  LISTEN...meh this is my last post about it, but dude  cmon, your replies and posts just  get more ridiculous

 Wow, I just can't wait until the technology exists to give grapsfan a big fat sweaty hairy man hug over the interwebnets.

I've been called an asshole more times than you'd guess, and I've probably deserved it more than I'll admit.  There are plenty of P5ers whose contribution-to-insult ratio is much better than mine.

But I'm a firm believer that nobody listens if you sugarcoat the truth.  I think most of N2K's threads are living, breathing examples.

The truth, N2K, is you should never use the word "donk" about another person ever again.  You're in no position to use it now, and as you improve, you won't want to.  People who play bad should be embraced and encouraged, not insulted.

Make sure you grab both cheeks.  I hate when I get half a grope...just ain't right.

grapsfan:

n2kfactor:

Yeah but where's the edge when I'm shoving 99 and getting called by QA??

There are hardly any donks in the game I play...

ITS ALWAYS A COINFLIP ALL THE TIME...I don't know why

Then fucking quit.  Nothing personal, and I'm not trying to be mean - although I sure feel like it.

But people give you advice in every post you make.  Good advice.  And you seem to listen to none of it.  So, you think everyone plays perfectly...but are looking to call them donks anyway....

I think there's always a donk in the game you play, N2K...wanna guess his name?


So in one hand, you played right with 99, and you got called correctly with AQ, and you lost the flip.  Boo fucking hoo.  Happens to every single one of us, every single day.

My guess is you missed dozens of opportunities to chip up before that spot, and be in better shape to survive losing the flip.  Spots where you could have raised from the cutoff and stolen the blinds, but you clicked on "auto-fold" with your 97off.  Spots where a super-loose player c-betting the flop, and you folded 2nd pair because you weren't paying enough attention to notice what a LAGtard he is.  Spots where you could re-raise with AJoff, but you're afraid of it.

We all miss those spots...but are trying to improve rather than fucking whine about it.  Personally, I hope to have you posting more when you're doing more improving and less whining.  But not until then.

people dont play perfectly.  yes, there are some situations that play themselves, like the one you mentioned.  if having 6bbs is common place for you in tourneys, you need to adjust your strategy

I'm sick of poker but I can't live without it..

How old are you N2K?

Gags30:

grapsfan:

n2kfactor:

Yeah but where's the edge when I'm shoving 99 and getting called by QA??

There are hardly any donks in the game I play...

ITS ALWAYS A COINFLIP ALL THE TIME...I don't know why

Then fucking quit.  Nothing personal, and I'm not trying to be mean - although I sure feel like it.

yessssssssssssss grapsfan has finally been broken!!!!

grapsfan:

n2kfactor:

Yeah but where's the edge when I'm shoving 99 and getting called by QA??

There are hardly any donks in the game I play...

ITS ALWAYS A COINFLIP ALL THE TIME...I don't know why

Then fucking quit.  Nothing personal, and I'm not trying to be mean - although I sure feel like it.

But people give you advice in every post you make.  Good advice.  And you seem to listen to none of it.  So, you think everyone plays perfectly...but are looking to call them donks anyway....

I think there's always a donk in the game you play, N2K...wanna guess his name?


So in one hand, you played right with 99, and you got called correctly with AQ, and you lost the flip.  Boo fucking hoo.  Happens to every single one of us, every single day.

My guess is you missed dozens of opportunities to chip up before that spot, and be in better shape to survive losing the flip.  Spots where you could have raised from the cutoff and stolen the blinds, but you clicked on "auto-fold" with your 97off.  Spots where a super-loose player c-betting the flop, and you folded 2nd pair because you weren't paying enough attention to notice what a LAGtard he is.  Spots where you could re-raise with AJoff, but you're afraid of it.

We all miss those spots...but are trying to improve rather than fucking whine about it.  Personally, I hope to have you posting more when you're doing more improving and less whining.  But not until then.

 Stop being such a poon tang and get better.