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wtfspot in 33 freeze
Jeangrae (Canada) 481 Posts. Joined 11-29-2007.
11-18-2009 1:05 PM

K so I just got moved to this table, 2nd hand here.  

My thoughts:  First off I hate my flat pre, I think a 3 bet to iso against short stack raising is the optimal play now that I look back at it.  

Post flop thoughts:  when I check raise flop and bb cold flats my 3bet(which is fckin sick) I put him on 2 hands, a f draw(which is beyond terrible cold flatting my 3 bet on flop) or a set, both of which own me on the turn.........thoughts?

PokerStars Game #35513199158: Tournament #229010123, $30+$3 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2009/11/18 5:26:07 ET

Table '229010123 49' 9-max Seat #8 is the button

Seat 1: rggrggrggrgg (58337 in chips) 

Seat 2: IG0tDibs (54531 in chips) 

Seat 4: All-InBivens (87350 in chips) 

Seat 5: dstrawn10000 (49597 in chips) 

Seat 6: buzzwerf (29560 in chips) 

Seat 7: duhmattman (41650 in chips) 

Seat 8: heatofbosnia (32694 in chips) 

Seat 9: JeanGrae (82546 in chips) 

rggrggrggrgg: posts the ante 125

IG0tDibs: posts the ante 125

All-InBivens: posts the ante 125

dstrawn10000: posts the ante 125

buzzwerf: posts the ante 125

duhmattman: posts the ante 125

heatofbosnia: posts the ante 125

JeanGrae: posts the ante 125

JeanGrae: posts small blind 600

rggrggrggrgg: posts big blind 1200

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to JeanGrae [Js Ah]

IG0tDibs: folds 

All-InBivens: folds 

dstrawn10000: folds 

buzzwerf: raises 2000 to 3200

duhmattman: folds 

heatofbosnia: folds 

JeanGrae: calls 2600

rggrggrggrgg: calls 2000

*** FLOP *** [Ad 6c 3c]

JeanGrae: checks 

rggrggrggrgg: checks 

buzzwerf: bets 6000

JeanGrae: raises 8400 to 14400

rggrggrggrgg: calls 14400

buzzwerf: folds 

*** TURN *** [Ad 6c 3c] [Jc]

JeanGrae: checks 

rggrggrggrgg: bets 40612 and is all-in

JeanGrae: ????

 
 
 

bassmaster (United States) 1,951 Posts. Joined 01-03-2007.
11-18-2009 1:36 PM - In reply to

my guess is he has Ax with club and u have to dodge tha river


Illini213 (United States) 599 Posts. Joined 09-29-2007.
11-18-2009 2:00 PM - In reply to

elusively: 

 

So it's profitable to c/r that flop if his range is Acx and... what else?

Most/all of the other hands he continue with have us CRUSHED or are FD's.

EDIT: Sorry, I'm sure it will be profitable to c/r a standard c-bet here, but when he continues, we're pretty much always losing, so we should be c/r'ing with hands that are bluffs.



Personally, I lead out on flop, but I can c y Jean did c/r.  All, I was saying was that villian is not folding the Ac-x on a c/r on this flop

doubledave22 (United States) 4,431 Posts. Joined 01-22-2006.
11-18-2009 2:10 PM - In reply to
66

wow it got this far and noone said fold (or 3b/c) pre... this is saddening


funnygut (United States) 1,884 Posts. Joined 03-23-2008.
11-18-2009 2:18 PM - In reply to

doubledave22: 

wow it got this far and noone said fold (or 3b/c) pre... this is saddening

take er easy, pretty sure jean established in OP 3b/call is better than the flat, and idk about a fold w/o reads

elusively (United States) 3,931 Posts. Joined 02-07-2007.
11-18-2009 2:48 PM - In reply to

doubledave22: 

wow it got this far and noone said fold (or 3b/c) pre... this is saddening



read

Jeangrae (Canada) 481 Posts. Joined 11-29-2007.
11-18-2009 9:59 PM - In reply to

 I folded...

I really felt there were only 2 hands he shows up with here a flush or set but I could be completely wrong


ty for feedback


doubledave22 (United States) 4,431 Posts. Joined 01-22-2006.
11-18-2009 10:06 PM - In reply to
66

elusively: 
read


yaa sorry reading comprehension is something i lack

faith restored for the time being


P33J (United States) 727 Posts. Joined 12-15-2007.
11-18-2009 10:15 PM - In reply to

Jeangrae: 

 I folded...

I really felt there were only 2 hands he shows up with here a flush or set but I could be completely wrong


ty for feedback

I would say good fold sir

KA_Spirit (United States) 211 Posts. Joined 10-09-2007.
11-19-2009 12:21 AM - In reply to

 Yo Jean, I call here without a doubt, just out of curiosity how long did he take to call the check raise on the flop?


Gags30 (United States) 4,400 Posts. Joined 08-17-2007.
11-19-2009 12:25 AM - In reply to
55

1. call

2. fade a club on the river

3. profit


MoneyOr2 (United States) 441 Posts. Joined 10-12-2007.
11-19-2009 2:47 AM - In reply to

one of my fastest snap calls of the year probably


djkelly69 (Australia) 1,098 Posts. Joined 10-09-2006.
11-19-2009 6:50 AM - In reply to

i call as well.  i think you (and other posters) are giving a random $33 player way too much credit.

while you occasionally run into flushes or sets here, i think it is more likely TP w FD type hands.

if it was a $330, i would think about folding.


Spraggs (United Kingdom) 530 Posts. Joined 08-08-2007.
11-19-2009 7:17 AM - In reply to

I just read the whole post, and was trying to decide whether a 3b(/c obv) or just folding is best.

And i realised, i have no idea, beacuse i dont know the table/images.

his stack is an akward 25bbs. He shouldnt be opening too light from MP, but, this is a 33 fo on stars.


TheGfactor (United States) 1,210 Posts. Joined 05-30-2006.
11-19-2009 7:57 AM - In reply to

coolhandkev: 
Snap shove = Snap call from me.


lol me too, why are u considering this after this turn peels off.  Don't raise the flop if your folding this turn their range is far bigger than just flushes and sets which your putting him on when you fold.  Im a station tho.

qjuice14 (United States) 2,081 Posts. Joined 08-29-2007.
11-19-2009 8:04 AM - In reply to

I think your c/r on the flop is fundamentally wrong is counter productive to what are you are trying to achieve.

As played, I do not see how you can fold the turn.

 
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