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wwyd with quads?
Archie1106 (United States) 388 Posts. Joined 12-25-2007.
11-08-2009 1:08 PM

villian has been pretty lag and chasing every draw. he hasnt been to good from what ive seen. wanted to get it in while he was still chasing. anyone check the turn?

Stage #1985390787 Tourney ID 4853922 Holdem Multi Normal Tournament No Limit 60 - 2009-11-08 14:02:27 (ET)
Table: 13 (Real Money) Seat #2 is the dealer
Seat 1 - OZORO (2,930 in chips)
Seat 2 - OREO1987 (1,190 in chips)
Seat 3 - READELEK (3,045 in chips)
Seat 4 - ARCHIE1106 (3,725 in chips)
Seat 5 - MATTY2001 (1,500 in chips)
Seat 6 - ADCOCK29 (1,445 in chips)
Seat 7 - THEWIZARD7 (2,410 in chips)
Seat 8 - MR_LEE4 (1,635 in chips)
Seat 9 - GENNADIY50 (11,855 in chips)
READELEK - Posts small blind 30
ARCHIE1106 - Posts big blind 60
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to ARCHIE1106 [4c 4s]
MATTY2001 - Folds
ADCOCK29 - Calls 60
THEWIZARD7 - Folds
MR_LEE4 - Folds
GENNADIY50 - Calls 60
OZORO - Calls 60
OREO1987 - Folds
READELEK - Folds
ARCHIE1106 - Checks
*** FLOP *** [4d 8c 10c]
ARCHIE1106 - Bets 180
ADCOCK29 - Calls 180
GENNADIY50 - Raises 360 to 360
OZORO - Folds
ARCHIE1106 - Raises 810 to 990
ADCOCK29 - Folds
GENNADIY50 - Calls 630
*** TURN *** [4d 8c 10c] [4h]
ARCHIE1106 - Bets 1,225
GENNADIY50 - Folds
ARCHIE1106 - returned (1,225) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
ARCHIE1106 - Does not show
ARCHIE1106 Collects 2,430 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot(2,430)
Board [4d 8c 10c 4h]
Seat 1: OZORO Folded on the FLOP
Seat 2: OREO1987 (dealer) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 3: READELEK (small blind) Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: ARCHIE1106 (big blind) collected Total (2,430) HI:(2,430)  [Does not show]
Seat 5: MATTY2001 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 6: ADCOCK29 Folded on the FLOP
Seat 7: THEWIZARD7 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 8: MR_LEE4 Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 9: GENNADIY50 Folded on the TURN


 
 
 

Chet22r (United States) 285 Posts. Joined 10-04-2007.
11-08-2009 1:13 PM - In reply to

 Not much different. There checking back all hands on the turn, that are not boats. Maybe bet slightly smaller than 1/2 pot.


rainmanrcp (United States) 737 Posts. Joined 08-20-2009.
11-08-2009 1:13 PM - In reply to

Definitely check the turn, if hes lag as you say he'll prob bet here and if not, giving him another card to complete a draw won't hurt.


bassmaster (United States) 1,951 Posts. Joined 01-03-2007.
11-08-2009 1:22 PM - In reply to

check the turn forsure


CzechItDown (United States) 401 Posts. Joined 03-29-2009.
11-08-2009 1:27 PM - In reply to

Yep, check turn like others said. He's probably on some type of draw there. Maybe a weakish ten but doubt it.


chummin85 (United States) 53 Posts. Joined 12-11-2007.
11-08-2009 2:07 PM - In reply to

This is a level for sure. lmao check turn


JonBon-10 (United Kingdom) 386 Posts. Joined 04-10-2008.
11-08-2009 2:17 PM - In reply to

most probably check/fold, as 9c7c will spike the Jc on river


mdshack14 (United States) 2,310 Posts. Joined 05-14-2007.
11-08-2009 2:39 PM - In reply to

 why did you reraise the flop??? You scared of the clubs? I prob woulda just called the raise on the flop and checked to him on the turn hoping he'd get out of line. I'm sure you cost yourself some chips with the reraise on the flop then leading the turn.


miko77q (Canada) 295 Posts. Joined 01-04-2006.
11-08-2009 3:01 PM - In reply to

 I would make a large all in bet on the turn.  Your hand is vulnerable and you must protect it.  If the 6c 7c 9c Jc or Qc comes you'd have to check maybe call a small bet on riv expecting to be beat and what happens if an 8 or T comes? did you think of that? You'd only have bottom quads and I don't see how you could put any more money in the pot.


Doim (Germany) 62 Posts. Joined 08-01-2009.
11-08-2009 4:57 PM - In reply to

miko77q: 

 I would make a large all in bet on the turn.  Your hand is vulnerable and you must protect it.  If the 6c 7c 9c Jc or Qc comes you'd have to check maybe call a small bet on riv expecting to be beat and what happens if an 8 or T comes? did you think of that? You'd only have bottom quads and I don't see how you could put any more money in the pot.

you just made my day

Archie1106 (United States) 388 Posts. Joined 12-25-2007.
11-08-2009 6:24 PM - In reply to

maybe im the only one that has played with this species of donk. the kind that chases alot. obv i know i have the nuts. but what can he have, maybe a weak 10 or a draw. so why wouldnt i make him pay to chase his draw.i understand checking the turn but the i dont think ive seen any responses that say why that is the best option.


CzechItDown (United States) 401 Posts. Joined 03-29-2009.
11-08-2009 7:09 PM - In reply to

Archie1106: 

maybe im the only one that has played with this species of donk. the kind that chases alot. obv i know i have the nuts. but what can he have, maybe a weak 10 or a draw. so why wouldnt i make him pay to chase his draw.i understand checking the turn but the i dont think ive seen any responses that say why that is the best option.

To allow for him to catch up in the hand and make a mistake on the river.

leftygrove (United States) 1,708 Posts. Joined 07-10-2008.
11-08-2009 7:57 PM - In reply to

You could bet really small (900 is around 1/3 pot) and induce him to chase his useless club/straight draw.

I feel like betting large might be best against these type of players, who think that hands like J-9o or A-2cc is unfoldable here.

In general I feel like the only way you can fuck this up is to check... your description makes him seem like the type of player that calls every draw and doesn't bother bluffing if he misses.

 
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