Hand Advice Post

Final Table for a 180? $70K in chips on this table and $270k in play for a 180. This is more like the money bubble with 3 tables in play possibly 4.

 Any reads would also help but with out reads and considering this is probably either the final three tables (money bubble), I would think a fold. I think you only have a 25% chance of winning and I don't think your getting 4:1 on your money and I think your only getting 3:1 (i did quick math). Range for player on button is (a7+, any broadway, any pair, 76s-109s), range for player in SB is (77+,ATs+,KQs,AJo+). I don't think this is a good place to risk over 1/3 of your stack, conserve your chips and use them to steal blinds where possible.

my two cents......

this is about as easy of a call as your gunna get.

 i think you're getting better than 3:1, looks like a 3500 call into about a 13000 pot, closer to 4:1.  i'd say thats plenty good enough for a call.  you don't need to win too often for that to be profitable

No way in hell this is  a Final Table and and its an easy fold.

The pot has been shoved and re-shoved. All you have is Q High and you're likely dominated by at least one of the other hands. This should be an instant fold without any second thoughts.

4:1 with QJ in that spot is an easy call.  any1 care to actual explain why it is not.  anyone who can calc ranges would be nice..

woertink:

4:1 with QJ in that spot is an easy call.  any1 care to actual explain why it is not.  anyone who can calc ranges would be nice..

easy fold...what is to explain???...if they go all in...its because they do have a hands...and Qj aint a good hand to follow any all in period...specially so close to the money...personnaly...only donks would call with QJ...IMO

The button should be shoving any two with only 2.7 bbs, the small blinds range is still wide with only 3.2 bbs. With 12000 in the pot and you only having to call 3660 i think its a very easy call.

I believe the ranges are still a little tight.

Hand 0:  30.702% { QcJd }
Hand 1:  31.913% { 22+, A2s+, K2s+, Q2s+, J2s+, T2s+, 92s+, 82s+, 72s+, 62s+, 52s+, 42s+, 32s, ATo+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }
Hand 2:  37.385% { 22+, A2s+, K8s+, Q9s+, JTs, A2o+, K8o+, Q9o+, JTo }

As you can see youre 30% against the ranges i entered. I still think the button is shoving ATC but i put in any pair, any broadway, any suited. I think the small blind range is a little tighter than what it should be but you can tell its still an easy call imo.

mathematically it's a call but another factor which i feel is important above and beyond the math is how comfortable you feel at the time of this hand? How have you been playing and how well do you feel you match up against your opponents. If you have an edge over them, you might want to call knowing you can chip back up easily if you don't suckout...but if you don't feel that edge then i'd try my best to keep all spewage to a minimum and save as much of my stack as possible for when my money is going in good..... Dj

johns his money is going in good tho.  based on pot odds. 

I don't see how this is a final table.  OP must have meant final table bubble or something.  Anyway I don't get all the people saying this is a fold.  He has 1600 invested in the pot already and for 3500 more he stands to win 12,000 plus knock out 2 players.  He's getting 3.5:1 on his money and it closes the betting so those are his final odds.  The button should be shoving ATC and the SB, also short and needing to make a move, can be pushing with any reasonable hand as well.  QJ isn't likely to be ahead here, but given the price he's getting on his call and the fact that if he loses he still has enough to effectively play push/fold well I think a fold is a mistake.

^^^^See my post on hand ranges, i think im pretty close.

If my math is close then given the ranges you estimated, which looked about right to me anyway, you only need ~23% equity to make this call.  You had ~31% equity vs those ranges so you have more than enough to make this call a profitable one.