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Im a newer player to omaha, i feel like i have a good understanding of it. Im posting three hands from 2 different sites. The 2 from poker stars are back to back.
Full Tilt Poker Game #13171111887: $5 + $0.50 Tournament (97525956), Table 5 - 400/800 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 1:54:10 ET - 2009/07/03
Seat 1: Wesolowski (53,014)
Seat 4: Big_Blind_Bunes (49,700)
Seat 5: Ash Erwin (23,900)
Seat 6: denvermikeb (47,913)
Seat 7: Beef573 (25,694)
Seat 8: tha_burgh (8,292)
Seat 9: coopdvlle (17,698)
Beef573 posts the small blind of 400
tha_burgh posts the big blind of 800
The button is in seat #6
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tha_burgh [2c As Ac 6c]
coopdvlle folds
Wesolowski folds
Big_Blind_Bunes folds
Ash Erwin folds
denvermikeb folds
Beef573 calls 400
tha_burgh raises to 2,400
Beef573 has 15 seconds left to act
Beef573 raises to 7,200
tha_burgh raises to 8,292, and is all in
Beef573 calls 1,092
tha_burgh shows [2c As Ac 6c]
Beef573 shows [8h 3s Kd Kh]
tha_burgh: lol
*** FLOP *** [5c Ah 2h]
*** TURN *** [5c Ah 2h] [8s]
*** RIVER *** [5c Ah 2h 8s] [9h]
tha_burgh shows three of a kind, Aces
Beef573 shows a flush, Ace high
Beef573 wins the pot (16,584) with a flush, Ace high
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 16,584 | Rake 0
Board: [5c Ah 2h 8s 9h]
Seat 1: Wesolowski didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: Big_Blind_Bunes didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: Ash Erwin didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: denvermikeb (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: Beef573 (small blind) showed [8h 3s Kd Kh] and won (16,584) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 8: tha_burgh (big blind) showed [2c As Ac 6c] and lost with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 9: coopdvlle didn't bet (folded)
*********** # 167 **************
PokerStars Game #30042250111: Tournament #175253556, $10+$1 Omaha Pot Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2009/07/03 2:34:20 ET
Table '175253556 13' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: JagerMaestro (20088 in chips)
Seat 2: elmat (9550 in chips)
Seat 3: Ferren1969 (20960 in chips)
Seat 4: AJB444 (91405 in chips)
Seat 5: tha burgh (40946 in chips)
Seat 6: Scotty2010 (48364 in chips)
Seat 7: STEVEK05 (56183 in chips)
Seat 8: cheo55 (4880 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: EATBALUT (24597 in chips)
AJB444: posts small blind 600
tha burgh: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tha burgh [Ac Ad As 9d]
Scotty2010: calls 1200
STEVEK05: folds
cheo55: folds
EATBALUT: raises 1200 to 2400
JagerMaestro: folds
elmat: folds
Ferren1969: folds
AJB444: folds
tha burgh: raises 6600 to 9000
Scotty2010: calls 7800
EATBALUT: calls 6600
*** FLOP *** [Kd 2h 3s]
tha burgh: bets 27600
Scotty2010: folds
EATBALUT: calls 15597 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (12003) returned to tha burgh
*** TURN *** [Kd 2h 3s] [3h]
*** RIVER *** [Kd 2h 3s 3h] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tha burgh: shows [Ac Ad As 9d] (two pair, Aces and Threes)
EATBALUT: shows [Ks Kh 4c 4h] (a full house, Kings full of Threes)
EATBALUT collected 58794 from pot
tha burgh said, "un real"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 58794 | Rake 0
Board [Kd 2h 3s 3h 8c]
Seat 1: JagerMaestro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: elmat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Ferren1969 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: AJB444 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: tha burgh (big blind) showed [Ac Ad As 9d] and lost with two pair, Aces and Threes
Seat 6: Scotty2010 folded on the Flop
Seat 7: STEVEK05 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: cheo55 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: EATBALUT showed [Ks Kh 4c 4h] and won (58794) with a full house, Kings full of Threes
*********** # 168 **************
PokerStars Game #30042268947: Tournament #175253556, $10+$1 Omaha Pot Limit - Level XIII (600/1200) - 2009/07/03 2:35:37 ET
Table '175253556 13' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: JagerMaestro (20088 in chips)
Seat 2: elmat (9550 in chips)
Seat 3: Ferren1969 (20960 in chips)
Seat 4: AJB444 (90805 in chips)
Seat 5: tha burgh (16349 in chips)
Seat 6: Scotty2010 (39364 in chips)
Seat 7: STEVEK05 (56183 in chips)
Seat 8: cheo55 (4880 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 9: EATBALUT (58794 in chips)
tha burgh: posts small blind 600
Scotty2010: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to tha burgh [Ah 4h 7s As]
STEVEK05: calls 1200
cheo55: folds
EATBALUT: folds
JagerMaestro: folds
tha burgh said, "u know you got 2 outs"
elmat: folds
AJB444 said, "bad luck"
Ferren1969: folds
AJB444: raises 4200 to 5400
tha burgh: raises 10949 to 16349 and is all-in
Scotty2010: folds
STEVEK05: folds
cheo55 has returned
AJB444: calls 10949
*** FLOP *** [8h 2c 2d]
AJB444 said, "sheesh"
*** TURN *** [8h 2c 2d] [Ks]
AJB444 said, "back to back aces"
*** RIVER *** [8h 2c 2d Ks] [5c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
tha burgh: shows [Ah 4h 7s As] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
AJB444: shows [Kd 2s 7h Kc] (a full house, Kings full of Deuces)
AJB444 collected 35098 from pot
AJB444 said, "tough luck man gg"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 35098 | Rake 0
Board [8h 2c 2d Ks 5c]
Seat 1: JagerMaestro folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: elmat folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Ferren1969 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: AJB444 (button) showed [Kd 2s 7h Kc] and won (35098) with a full house, Kings full of Deuces
Seat 5: tha burgh (small blind) showed [Ah 4h 7s As] and lost with two pair, Aces and Deuces
Seat 6: Scotty2010 (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: STEVEK05 folded before Flop
Seat 8: cheo55 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: EATBALUT folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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In the first and last hands, no; the other, yes.
There was no need to play AAA in the second of the hands you gave- it's hard enough to win after the flop with aces without improving, and leaving yourself with only one card to hit will be -EV in the long run.
When the money is deep, it's often correct to limp AA in PLO. In both hands, however, where all the action was pre-flop, that wasn't the case, so you were at the mercy of the cards. Your play there was fine.
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I agree there is nothing you can do about the 2 where you get it all in with AA preflop. You were pretty lucky to be up against KKxx, instead of 789T or 89TJ which are killers against AAxx. But then you got unlucky end of story.
With the other hand, maybe you overplayed AA there. I think AA in omaha with deep stack you might want to play a little slower there. Especially on the flop. When you make that substantial a re-raise you almost have to put one of the callers on kk. So you could have saved money there but that is an unlucky flop which left you drawing to 1 out. AA has cost me a lot by overplaying it in omaha so I learned to kind of take it slow. I actually think AA is my least favorite hand in omaha, you can make so much more off other random hands, omaha is a great game. Good luck
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