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Call or sigh fold?
jezzman30 (Australia) 33 Posts. Joined 11-30-2008.
11-04-2009 6:10 AM

Full Tilt Poker Game #15786689767: $3 + $0.30 KO Sit & Go (115741021), Table 4 - 500/1000 Ante 125 - No Limit Hold'em - 7:07:18 ET - 2009/11/04

Seat 1: whalezy (15,641)

Seat 2: Shadow1980 (7,064)

Seat 3: mazzakane (3,565)

Seat 5: jrowe420 (18,950)

Seat 6: Rustynuts2 (13,550)

Seat 8: sandieko (7,195)

Seat 9: Jezzman30 (30,180)

whalezy antes 125

Shadow1980 antes 125

mazzakane antes 125

jrowe420 antes 125

Rustynuts2 antes 125

sandieko antes 125

Jezzman30 antes 125

jrowe420 posts the small blind of 500

Rustynuts2 posts the big blind of 1,000

The button is in seat #4

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to Jezzman30 [Kc As]

sandieko folds

Jezzman30 raises to 3,000

whalezy folds

Shadow1980 folds

mazzakane folds

jrowe420 folds

Rustynuts2 calls 2,000

*** FLOP *** [Ts 6h Qc]

Rustynuts2 bets 10,425, and is all in

Jezzman30 has 15 seconds left to act......

 
 
 

jesterwords (United States) 14,212 Posts. Joined 01-07-2006.
11-04-2009 6:56 AM - In reply to

Seat 9: Jezzman30 (30,180)

Seat 6: Rustynuts2 (13,550)

Just wondering why you would want to risk 1/3 of your stack with that flop?  You are not really getting the right price to draw to 3 A's, 3 K's, and 4J's.

car_t_a (United States) 190 Posts. Joined 10-18-2005.
11-04-2009 11:06 AM - In reply to

^^^^ agreed.  Unless you have a solid read that the villain shoves flops with nothing you need to fold here. 


MetalGod (United States) 1,964 Posts. Joined 08-08-2005.
11-04-2009 3:12 PM - In reply to

 Fold.  The only hands I could see you being ahead of here are KJ and maybe J9 unless of course you have a read on this player that tells you otherwise.


KingBustYou 96 Posts. Joined 10-10-2009.
11-05-2009 9:55 AM - In reply to

 forget the sigh, insta fold. please post some tough spots in the future, not a no brainer imo


ABorges (Portugal) 217 Posts. Joined 07-15-2008.
11-05-2009 10:46 AM - In reply to

I don't think this is a clear cut fold like everyone's making it out to be. You have pot odds of roughly 1.7 to 1, thus needing 37% in equity vs his range for a call to be +cEV. So let's say his range is underpairs, a bunch of random tens, low queens, open enders and never two pairs or sets:

77,55-22,ATs,KJs-KTs,QJs,Q9s,J9s+,T9s,ATo,KJo-KTo,QJo,Q9o,J9o+,T9o

You have 42% in equity actually, which is significantly better than what you need. That range doesn't even account for random spazzes with no pair no draw, AJ, gutters, etc, so you might actually be closer to 45ish%. It's a pretty counter intuitive spot but math says call.

jesterwords (United States) 14,212 Posts. Joined 01-07-2006.
11-05-2009 10:52 AM - In reply to

Personally, I would not call in this situation, even if the math says that I should.

Thanks for the math write up though, very cool contribution.

 
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