Kinda sick spot with QQ in 5050 deep stacked

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Kinda sick spot with QQ in 5050 deep stacked

elitewrestla (United States) 7 Posts. Joined 12-02-2008.
07-01-2009 11:57 PM

Been running pretty well in 5050 theres around 320 players (prob in the top 50 or so chip count wise) left when I found QQ in the sb when faced with a 3bet from a fairly solid not overly aggressive player from the button, with my stack i wonder whats the best way to approach this hand with my stack over just under 50bbs.

Full Tilt Poker Game #13150624380: The Fifty-Fifty (95744466), Table 100 - 150/300 Ante 25 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:07:46 ET - 2009/07/02
Seat 1: theshark1966 (10,730)
Seat 2: stanman420 (6,045)
Seat 3: Rainin Blood 99 (7,753)
Seat 4: krbwhitetiger (14,242)
Seat 5: Killagg (5,966)
Seat 6: gingipower (5,222)
Seat 8: FatBoyDexter (20,807)
Seat 9: elitewrestla (13,805)
theshark1966 antes 25
stanman420 antes 25
Rainin Blood 99 antes 25
krbwhitetiger antes 25
Killagg antes 25
gingipower antes 25
FatBoyDexter antes 25
elitewrestla antes 25
elitewrestla posts the small blind of 150
theshark1966 posts the big blind of 300
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to elitewrestla [Qh Qs]
stanman420 folds
Rainin Blood 99 folds
krbwhitetiger raises to 800
Killagg has 15 seconds left to act
Killagg has timed out
Killagg folds
Killagg is sitting out
gingipower folds
FatBoyDexter raises to 2,100
elitewrestla has 15 seconds left to act
eldiablo139 sits down
eldiablo139 adds 15,673
elitewrestla has requested TIME

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saukendar (United States) 712 Posts. Joined 03-19-2007.
07-02-2009 12:07 AM - In reply to

3650 in its 1950 to you - fold isn't an option & calling is sick - that leaves raising. As any raise commits you & pushing make being OOP moot just push.

my 2 cents

DutchCourage (Netherlands) 505 Posts. Joined 11-16-2007.
07-02-2009 4:56 AM - In reply to

saukendar:

3650 in its 1950 to you - fold isn't an option & calling is sick - that leaves raising. As any raise commits you & pushing make being OOP moot just push.
my 2 cents

How about calling, praying initial raiser do not raise (or even folds - which is highly unlikely given the pot) and then shoving any flop that does not contain an A or a K (or a Q of course)? That way you are more likely to push AK hands off that are likely to call an all-in shove pre as AK wants to see 5 cards, and still dominate lower pairs. If you run into AA or KK then wtf, you were destined to lose all your money anyway.

Any reads on other players involved? That always helps Big Smile

saukendar (United States) 712 Posts. Joined 03-19-2007.
07-02-2009 11:46 AM - In reply to

DutchCourage:
saukendar:

3650 in its 1950 to you - fold isn't an option & calling is sick - that leaves raising. As any raise commits you & pushing make being OOP moot just push.
my 2 cents

How about calling, praying initial raiser do not raise (or even folds - which is highly unlikely given the pot) and then shoving any flop that does not contain an A or a K (or a Q of course)? That way you are more likely to push AK hands off that are likely to call an all-in shove pre as AK wants to see 5 cards, and still dominate lower pairs. If you run into AA or KK then wtf, you were destined to lose all your money anyway.

Any reads on other players involved? That always helps

Flatting 15% of your stack OOP & inviting the original raiser in so you can face 2 hands w/Qs? Thats just sick! I guess it is an option but I don't like it much. The last thing you want is the original raiser coming in so you have to worry about under cards making a set.

You're getting a really nice overlay to a race so AK is fine. You wouldn't mind taking the pot as is and you absolutely want to isolate at least. As you say if its AA/KK ul, gg - but thats the same outcome :)

Also look what happens to the pot if we call, it'll end up being 2/3 of our remaining stack. We'll be OOP and have to open push most boards anyway and anyone with 11/12 outs will have the odds to call us down - also sick :(

I still say push pre.

another 2 cents

NetFan44 (United States) 3,710 Posts. Joined 06-05-2006.
07-02-2009 2:32 PM - In reply to

wager your remaining chips

elusively (United States) 3,620 Posts. Joined 02-07-2007.
07-02-2009 2:35 PM - In reply to

NetFan44:
wager your remaining chips

This is the best of the three options by far IMO.

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Kinda sick spot with QQ in 5050 deep stacked elitewrestla (United States) 7 Posts. Joined 12-02-2008. 07-01-2009 11:57 PM

saukendar (United States) 712 Posts. Joined 03-19-2007. 07-02-2009 12:07 AM - In reply to

DutchCourage (Netherlands) 505 Posts. Joined 11-16-2007. 07-02-2009 4:56 AM - In reply to

saukendar (United States) 712 Posts. Joined 03-19-2007. 07-02-2009 11:46 AM - In reply to

NetFan44 (United States) 3,710 Posts. Joined 06-05-2006. 07-02-2009 2:32 PM - In reply to

elusively (United States) 3,620 Posts. Joined 02-07-2007. 07-02-2009 2:35 PM - In reply to

Kinda sick spot with QQ in 5050 deep stacked

elitewrestla (United States) 7 Posts. Joined 12-02-2008.
07-01-2009 11:57 PM

saukendar (United States) 712 Posts. Joined 03-19-2007.
07-02-2009 12:07 AM - In reply to

DutchCourage (Netherlands) 505 Posts. Joined 11-16-2007.
07-02-2009 4:56 AM - In reply to

saukendar (United States) 712 Posts. Joined 03-19-2007.
07-02-2009 11:46 AM - In reply to

NetFan44 (United States) 3,710 Posts. Joined 06-05-2006.
07-02-2009 2:32 PM - In reply to

elusively (United States) 3,620 Posts. Joined 02-07-2007.
07-02-2009 2:35 PM - In reply to