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late in a s-n-g
sotti (United States) 1,342 Posts. Joined 09-04-2006.
06-21-2007 4:13 PM

POKERSTARS GAME #10550107473: TOURNAMENT #53443196, $6.00+$0.50 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL IV (50/100) - 2007/06/21 - 17:04:27 (ET)
Table '53443196 1' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 2: Werther0 (2195 in chips)
Seat 4: Scorpion_Lev (2125 in chips)
Seat 5: obiwansotti (1365 in chips)
Seat 6: doubleboast (1105 in chips)
Seat 7: phillymick17 (1255 in chips)
Seat 8: EnglishLad72 (2315 in chips)
Seat 9: BellaLobo (3140 in chips)
Scorpion_Lev: posts small blind 50
obiwansotti: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to obiwansotti [Qd Kc]
doubleboast: folds
phillymick17: folds
EnglishLad72: folds
BellaLobo: folds
Werther0: raises 200 to 300
Scorpion_Lev: folds
obiwansotti: raises 1065 to 1365 and is all-in
Werther0: calls 1065
*** FLOP *** [Tc 9s Ac]
*** TURN *** [Tc 9s Ac] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [Tc 9s Ac Kd] [4s]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
obiwansotti: shows [Qd Kc] (a pair of Kings)
Werther0: shows [Ad 5c] (a pair of Aces)
Werther0 collected 2780 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2780 | Rake 0
Board [Tc 9s Ac Kd 4s]
Seat 2: Werther0 (button) showed [Ad 5c] and won (2780) with a pair of Aces
Seat 4: Scorpion_Lev (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: obiwansotti (big blind) showed [Qd Kc] and lost with a pair of Kings
Seat 6: doubleboast folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: phillymick17 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: EnglishLad72 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: BellaLobo folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Am I wrong that his call was totally insane?
Was my push that bad a play?
 
 
 

ChicagoAPA (United States) 24 Posts. Joined 05-30-2007.
06-21-2007 4:19 PM - In reply to

Pushing with KQ to a preflop raiser=INSANE. and calling with A5=Arag also=INSANE.

Never push to a preflop raiser with KQ.....if u get called....most of the time they have Ace rag and ur beat PF.

sotti (United States) 1,342 Posts. Joined 09-04-2006.
06-21-2007 4:34 PM - In reply to

KQ is about 40% to Ace rag, not much worse off than two overcards to an under pair (55/45). If figure he's only getting. 1.61:1 on his money.

I thought since I could make the money odds so bad, and that one would assume I'd only make this play with a strong Ace or a PP, that Ace rag would lay down. Since his pot odds suck and if he loses he's out, guess he wanted to gamble.


Chip Daddy (United States) 126 Posts. Joined 05-15-2007.
06-21-2007 4:55 PM - In reply to

I believe u should have folded. IMO

sotti (United States) 1,342 Posts. Joined 09-04-2006.
06-21-2007 5:00 PM - In reply to

do you ever try to resteal?

I would think that I have a perftect type of hand for a resteal, good agaisnt Ace rag, good against a middle pocket pair.  If I have AK, AQ, QQ, KK, AA then it's not a resteal. 

NetFan44 (United States) 3,903 Posts. Joined 06-05-2006.
06-21-2007 5:01 PM - In reply to

you guys are being really results oriented IMO

folds to the button who's raising with a huge range of hands, KQ can EASILY be the best hand here, i like the shove because the initial raiser is getting less than 2-1 and can afford to fold and still be in ok shape.

i really dislike his call with A5 he has to put you on just a complete resteal to make that call, not sure how aggressive you were during this sng that maybe you had a laggy image and therefore would get called down lighter...


sotti (United States) 1,342 Posts. Joined 09-04-2006.
06-21-2007 5:07 PM - In reply to

This was my very first raise in the sng, and I was only the second time I voluntairly put chips in the pot.

when I imported the hand into poker tracker I could see the guy who busted me here was the very next one out. :(

Prfsr_Cain (United States) 3,306 Posts. Joined 10-04-2006.
06-21-2007 6:14 PM - In reply to

I like the push.  You have fold equity, and he should fold most holdings.  But you are in a donk -n-go, so you can't expect them to make logical decisions.  He probably though, "I have an Ace, wooooooooooooo hooooooooooooooo."  Even if he does call, you will probably be facing a pp or a weak ace, or have him crushed.

Good play

sotti (United States) 1,342 Posts. Joined 09-04-2006.
06-21-2007 6:24 PM - In reply to

yeah I checked him out on Sharkscope, he's stuck $800 over 300 games.

POKER_PANDA (United States) 4,011 Posts. Joined 05-04-2006.
06-21-2007 11:38 PM - In reply to

u scoped him be4 u pushed?  u r giving him bout 2 to 1 to make the call, so attempting a resteal is fine if you can get him to fold.

he should open fold a5 honestly, and it should be folded to you, where you make a standard 3x and everyone folds and you pick up the blinds.

but he didnt

so you should fold

kamakazmeee (United States) 22 Posts. Joined 04-19-2007.
06-22-2007 11:09 AM - In reply to

In a MTT this is a fine 're-steal' even though it is probably the best hand. In a SNG you need to fold. ICM clearly has this as a fold, shoving is -EV as you will only get called if you are beat and there is no reason to race.

TrickyClicky (United States) 47 Posts. Joined 11-03-2006.
06-22-2007 11:23 AM - In reply to

He must've used an old 'Jedi Mind trick' on you and sensed that his A no-kicker was actually good. 

--Tricky

GLMM (United States) 1,240 Posts. Joined 05-18-2006.
06-22-2007 11:32 AM - In reply to

If this is a one table s&g I am really not a fan of this play. I think a preflop fold is correct here.

his call is super donkish,though.
 
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