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LMTT (low) - Easy fold or call ??????
Chazmental (United States) 15,149 Posts. Joined 09-30-2005.
11-06-2009 10:06 PM

Okay so these 2 have not got out of line. I should have repopped Pre but once I didn't and the BB pushed and the button did too I got caught like a deer in the headlights with what to do. What say you?

PokerStars Game #35021199755: Tournament #209011055, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (100/200) - 2009/11/06 20:01:26 PT [2009/11/06 23:01:26 ET]
Table '209011055 113' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: koolio6 (2410 in chips)
Seat 2: ctevez97 (4795 in chips)
Seat 3: jcasey (1835 in chips)
Seat 4: tcboo888 (3320 in chips)
Seat 5: Lorr1968 (16500 in chips)
Seat 6: Osijek11 (5935 in chips)
Seat 7: Antoshka (4330 in chips)
Seat 8: Chazmental (8025 in chips)
Seat 9: acehiuwin (7750 in chips)
koolio6: posts the ante 25
ctevez97: posts the ante 25
jcasey: posts the ante 25
tcboo888: posts the ante 25
Lorr1968: posts the ante 25
Osijek11: posts the ante 25
Antoshka: posts the ante 25
Chazmental: posts the ante 25
acehiuwin: posts the ante 25
Chazmental: posts small blind 100
acehiuwin: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Chazmental [Qc Qd]
koolio6: folds
ctevez97: folds
jcasey: folds
tcboo888: folds
Lorr1968: folds
Osijek11: folds
Antoshka: raises 280 to 480
Chazmental: calls 380
acehiuwin: raises 7245 to 7725 and is all-in
Antoshka: calls 3825 and is all-in
Chazmental:  <- actually time banked.
 
 
 

shanetrain22 (United States) 3,206 Posts. Joined 10-28-2006.
11-06-2009 10:11 PM - In reply to

3-bet pre (not always, but usually). As played, I'm neverrrrr folding.


bashalane (Australia) 101 Posts. Joined 08-04-2008.
11-06-2009 10:12 PM - In reply to

not folding... not at these stakers


anignosaj (United States) 585 Posts. Joined 01-08-2008.
11-06-2009 10:12 PM - In reply to

im always shoving. 


Luckless 53 Posts. Joined 10-23-2009.
11-06-2009 10:14 PM - In reply to

fold is wrong


Chazmental (United States) 15,149 Posts. Joined 09-30-2005.
11-06-2009 10:20 PM - In reply to

I typed in 880 but hit the call button. Once that happened and the two go all I started to seriously doubt my hand at this point.


elendil (Australia) 1,681 Posts. Joined 06-27-2007.
11-06-2009 10:21 PM - In reply to

I'm calling. And stacking shorty hitting a set with his 99's.    


shanetrain22 (United States) 3,206 Posts. Joined 10-28-2006.
11-06-2009 10:22 PM - In reply to

Chazmental: 

I typed in 880 but hit the call button. Once that happened and the two go all I started to seriously doubt my hand at this point.



Effective stacks are only ~20bb, so in a button vs sb vs bb situation, QQ is basically impossible to fold... even vs 2 nits. There's nothing you can do but get it in, man.

The Baby Bull (United States) 206 Posts. Joined 12-29-2007.
11-06-2009 10:35 PM - In reply to


Given the stakes and context, I call.


allin4flush (United States) 266 Posts. Joined 07-29-2009.
11-06-2009 11:47 PM - In reply to

 This is a tough spot, with an M of 20... but considering the situation with the B/SB/BB and short stacks and the fact that you're looking at giving yourself a decent stack as the antes get going, I think I'd find a call.  That misclick might prove to be a happy accident when they turn over 88 and AQ


Sp1ctacular3 (United States) 687 Posts. Joined 08-07-2006.
11-07-2009 12:21 AM - In reply to

 You're sooooooo underrepped please call and laugh about a standard AA vs KK vs QQ spot.



Chazmental (United States) 15,149 Posts. Joined 09-30-2005.
11-07-2009 1:46 AM - In reply to

Yup. I supppppppppppper nitted this hand up so badly.

Uncalled bet (3420) returned to acehiuwin
*** FLOP *** [Th Jd 2d]
*** TURN *** [Th Jd 2d] [7s]
*** RIVER *** [Th Jd 2d 7s] [7c]
Chazmental said, "damn"
*** SHOW DOWN ***
acehiuwin: shows [9h 9d] (two pair, Nines and Sevens)
Antoshka: shows [Qs Ks] (a pair of Sevens)
acehiuwin collected 9315 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9315 | Rake 0
Board [Th Jd 2d 7s 7c]
Seat 1: koolio6 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: ctevez97 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: jcasey folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: tcboo888 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Lorr1968 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: Osijek11 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Antoshka (button) showed [Qs Ks] and lost with a pair of Sevens
Seat 8: Chazmental (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: acehiuwin (big blind) showed [9h 9d] and won (9315) with two pair, Nines and Sevens

Sp1ctacular3 (United States) 687 Posts. Joined 08-07-2006.
11-07-2009 11:03 AM - In reply to

 :(

What ranges do you assign that makes you fold?

With opener stack size he probably is opening somewhat tighter than usual but calling any shove. So 77+, KQs+, ATo+

Squeezer I think is wider here, considering you haven't displayed a real threat of having a hand. So 55+, KJs+, ATo+ Sometimes even some goofy hands.

Break the mouse I'm calling so fast

 
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