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Reech (United States Minor Outlying Islands) 8,661 Posts. Joined 06-16-2007.
11-05-2009 2:31 PM

 Full Tilt Poker Game #15815230640: $5 + $0.50 Tournament (115785005), Table 42 - 100/200 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:49:48 ET - 2009/11/05
Seat 1: Tazzer522 (6,330)
Seat 2: DIRTY DOG49 (24,710)
Seat 3: coppy49 (21,550)
Seat 4: YOU (11,760)
Seat 5: duzell (10,050)
Seat 6: Reech (14,218)
Seat 7: dutchamerican (16,335)
Seat 8: slpfot (12,720)
Seat 9: daviversulotti (13,350)
duzell posts the small blind of 100
Reech posts the big blind of 200
The button is in seat #4
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Reech [X X]
dutchamerican folds
slpfot folds
daviversulotti folds
Tazzer522 folds
DIRTY DOG49 calls 200
coppy49 folds
YOU [Kd Kc] raises to 800
duzell folds
Reech has 15 seconds left to act
Reech calls 600
DIRTY DOG49 calls 600
*** FLOP *** [9s 6h 5h] 
Reech has 15 seconds left to act
Reech bets 2,240
DIRTY DOG49 folds
YOU has 15 seconds left to act
YOU calls 2,240

*** TURN *** [9s 6h 5h] [Qs]
Reech has 15 seconds left to act
Reech bets 6,800
YOU has 15 seconds left to act

???

 
 
 

odstore (United States) 536 Posts. Joined 01-11-2008.
11-05-2009 2:39 PM - In reply to

Prob find a fold here depending on any reads.  Hate the way you played it though. 


Reech (United States Minor Outlying Islands) 8,661 Posts. Joined 06-16-2007.
11-05-2009 2:53 PM - In reply to

odstore: 

Prob find a fold here depending on any reads.  Hate the way you played it though. 



elaborate?

odstore (United States) 536 Posts. Joined 01-11-2008.
11-05-2009 3:35 PM - In reply to

He iso's the cl's limp so say he's got 99+ AT+ KQ or something.  You flat from the bb w/ 60bb's and a passive cl behind so you range is probably weighted towards small pp's and suited connectors, maybe some broadway combos.  CL almost never has a hand here so his range doesn't really matter that much.

On a flop that's ugly as sin and smacks your range in the face you donk out for almost pot into 2 players which is 2pr+ or at least TP w/ 2 hearts most of the time.  I'd honestly consider folding KK on the flop since he's flipping against most of you combo draws and crushed by a lot of your donk range. 

He probably stacked off once the Q hit since it's about as safe a card as he could hope for but your donk bet folds out all of his air and leaves him in a tough spot to call off his stack w/ his big pairs.  Your range is pretty polarized to 2pr/sets and draws and if you c/r the flop he's stacking off w/ KK every time and chalking it up to a cooler when he loses but the way you played it  he gets to put less money in vs. your made hands and fold when your draws get there on the turn.


Edit: And if you had some kind of marginal A9 type hand your turning it into a bluff w/ that donk bet imo (not that A9 should be in your range here to begin with).


Reech (United States Minor Outlying Islands) 8,661 Posts. Joined 06-16-2007.
11-05-2009 3:57 PM - In reply to

Reech: 
Dealt to Reech [Ks Kh]


all of what you say makes sense, if i had wanted him to call.


odstore (United States) 536 Posts. Joined 01-11-2008.
11-05-2009 4:01 PM - In reply to

Why would you just decide to cold bluff into 2 players on that flop?  Most players aren't thinking past "I have a big pair fuck him and his donk bet."  If your going to bluff then you should be c/c'ing the flop since there's so many terrible turn cards for his range that you can rep. Your line looks like you're trying to protect which sends him into bluff catcher mode.


allin4flush (United States) 266 Posts. Joined 07-29-2009.
11-05-2009 4:01 PM - In reply to

I'd have raised my KK on such a nasty-looking flop.  I'd have made it 5200 with the intention of getting it all in.


I guess, as played, I would call the turn for sure.


car_t_a (United States) 188 Posts. Joined 10-18-2005.
11-05-2009 8:46 PM - In reply to

With no reads on you, at the $5 level I'm never ever laying down KK on a board like that.  I would probably raise flop with intention of shoving turn.  


Poker Orifice (Canada) 34 Posts. Joined 06-06-2008.
11-06-2009 5:09 AM - In reply to

idk...why are you donkbetting POT into a preflop raiser?... on a board like that??

 
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