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I haven't played alot with SBRounder but i know he's an awsome player. Does anyone else thinks this is the correct player in a 109$freezout?
PokerStars Game #19550152894: Tournament #100869431, $100+$9 Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (800/1600) - 2008/08/11 - 22:46:25 (ET)
Table '100869431 54' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: sjco22 (26416 in chips)
Seat 2: SNG Grind_15 (29252 in chips)
Seat 3: salehrol (27019 in chips)
Seat 5: R|P(URL (90234 in chips)
Seat 6: brizzybreech (38551 in chips)
Seat 7: SBRounder (36733 in chips)
Seat 8: mig.com (19527 in chips)
Seat 9: timski22x (8490 in chips)
sjco22: posts the ante 150
SNG Grind_15: posts the ante 150
salehrol: posts the ante 150
R|P(URL: posts the ante 150
brizzybreech: posts the ante 150
SBRounder: posts the ante 150
mig.com: posts the ante 150
timski22x: posts the ante 150
mig.com: posts small blind 800
timski22x: posts big blind 1600
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to SNG Grind_15 [Js Jh]
R|P(URL said, "Rounder and mig, r u guys still in ftops`?"
sjco22: folds
SNG Grind_15: raises 2375 to 3975
salehrol: folds
R|P(URL: folds
brizzybreech: folds
SBRounder: calls 3975
mig.com: folds
timski22x has timed out
timski22x: folds
*** FLOP *** [2h 6s Ts]
timski22x is sitting out
timski22x has returned
Kenrof is connected
SNG Grind_15: checks
SBRounder: bets 5050
SNG Grind_15 said, "omfg"
SNG Grind_15 said, "something wierd about this hand"
SNG Grind_15: folds
Uncalled bet (5050) returned to SBRounder
SBRounder collected 11550 from pot
SNG Grind_15 said, "JJ"
SBRounder: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 11550 | Rake 0
Board [2h 6s Ts]
Seat 1: sjco22 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: SNG Grind_15 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: salehrol folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: R|P(URL folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: brizzybreech folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: SBRounder (button) collected (11550)
Seat 8: mig.com (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: timski22x (big blind) folded before Flop
in this very hand the shortstack tanked for quite a bit and i was thinking what to do if he shoved and obv i thought i had re shove any 2 in, but then i realized he had 2 know i was shovin any2 here. Since we already made the money i expected the short stack to play pretty much any 2 there but he timed out and folded.
when the flop comes out i know for sure that IF SBR was trapping me preflop that flop couldn't helped me much so i checked. when he bet that amount it seemed like he begged me 2 push. i thought about it alooooooooooooong time and decided to flop.
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If you're already in the money I don't see why you can't shove here. There's $11,550 in the pot and Rounder bets $5050 from the button. He's just playing aggressive poker with position on a smaller stack. His line is huge here. I think you're ahead here 70-80% of the time, if not more. You've got $25,127 left. If you shove he has to decide if he wants to risk another $20,000 on his draw, maybe TPTK or two overs. What kind of a flop were you hoping to see with JJ? If I'm Rounder and I find QQ-AA in this spot I am definitely re-popping you pre flop, especially with both blinds still to act because if I just call with a big hand, I'm giving both blinds better pot odds to call/shove with almost ATC. In that spot some people want to see the blinds shove ATC if they have a big hand like QQ-AA but I like to protect those hands pre flop, at least not make it a no brainer to shove J8off. That said, I dont think you're up against a bigger PP. So if he landed a set, you're hosed, but I still think you have to shove this. If you shove and he lets it go you're the chip leader. If he calls, you are ahead a lot of the time and you could cripple a solid player. Maybe not a snap shove, but definitely a shove IMHO.
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ye, but the point in this hand is that the BB is basicly pot commited but he still have to re raise to go all in, and SB then knows i will have to re shove any hand i was raising cause if i get SBR to fold im getting an awsome price no matter what i have including 67s or some crap like that that there were no way i was giving him any action with if he re raise preflop.
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i don't know if i would give SB that much credit to think through the hand that much, as well as have QQ-AA... therefore this is a definite shove on the flop for me.
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Knowing where the shortstacks are and their effect on the hand you're in should be going through your head with every hand you play so yes he does know this. Definately a wierd hand. Given the stacks involved, I don't think he's flatting you light here ever, though I've never played with him.
The standard answer is to say shove, however this hand is very read/player dependant. I think don't think he's flatting many hands with 10's in them besides maybe 1010. I also don't think he's betting here with the intention of folding to a shove, so what could he have here? Overs with a flush draw and overpairs seem most likely. Also why would he only lead 1/2 pot here unless to lead you to believe you still have fold equity on a shove.
*edit* gotta reword this whole thing. Thought SBRounder was Brian Townsend. Most of the info in here still applies though.
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So SBRugby and SBRounder are both Townsend? If I thought this was Brian playing the hand my thought process would be a whole lot different.
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