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Tough spot with JJ early.
KnotStoopid 31 Posts. Joined 07-24-2008.
07-03-2009 12:46 PM

$22 675 person MTT

He hasn't really played a hand up until this point. LMK what you think or how I could've played the hand better.

PokerStars Game #30055636078: Tournament #175252949, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (25/50) - 2009/07/03 13:35:16 ET
Table '175252949 70' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: Nicklon777 (2700 in chips)
Seat 2: Knot Stoopid (3195 in chips)
Seat 3: gavrosh80 (4030 in chips)
Seat 4: TSchmidt90 (3100 in chips)
Seat 5: heinekenofzo (5970 in chips)
Seat 6: colah (2010 in chips)
Seat 7: kassaig (3000 in chips)
Seat 8: Numero123 (3378 in chips)
Seat 9: USAWSOP08 (3800 in chips)
heinekenofzo: posts small blind 25
colah: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Knot Stoopid [Jc Jd]
kassaig: folds
Numero123 has timed out while being disconnected
Numero123: folds
Numero123 is sitting out
USAWSOP08: folds
Nicklon777: raises 100 to 150
Knot Stoopid: calls 150
gavrosh80: folds
TSchmidt90: folds
Numero123 is disconnected
heinekenofzo: folds
colah: calls 100
*** FLOP *** [6h 5d 4h]
colah: checks
Nicklon777: bets 200
Knot Stoopid: raises 400 to 600
colah: folds
Nicklon777: raises 1950 to 2550 and is all-in
Knot Stoopid: folds
Uncalled bet (1950) returned to Nicklon777
Nicklon777 collected 1675 from pot
Nicklon777: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1675 | Rake 0
Board [6h 5d 4h]
Seat 1: Nicklon777 collected (1675)
Seat 2: Knot Stoopid folded on the Flop
Seat 3: gavrosh80 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: TSchmidt90 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: heinekenofzo (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: colah (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: kassaig folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: Numero123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: USAWSOP08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
 
 
 

stackdown (United States) 439 Posts. Joined 04-19-2009.
07-03-2009 3:18 PM - In reply to

 A re-raise PF anywhere b/w 300-500 is tha move with JJ here.  Folding to yer opponents all-in shove after flop is way too conservative.  Also maybe include reads imo.  Villain had anywhere from Ah with Kh,Qh,Jh or A6, perhaps even a pair Tens-Sevens.  Get your chips in and play more aggressive.


lordxixor101 (United States) 5,786 Posts. Joined 03-16-2006.
07-06-2009 10:17 AM - In reply to

Yeah, I think this is the problem without reraising preflop.  Hard to really nail down a hand here.

I think there are tons of potential hands he has that your beating.  Would he play 1010 or 99 much different?  Also, you said he hasn't played a hand yet, over how many have you sat with him?  If he hasn't played one over 15 hands, that isn't saying too much (could be a bit card dead).  If he hasn't played in 100, then he's probably a tighter player.

Since you didn't reraise preflop, you have a low connected board, and he pushes your raise.  In reality, I have no idea what to make of this.  People cbet most boards, so your raise could mean anything (you figured he missed) so he's coming over the top.  I think he could have AK no draws here.  He might have QQ-AA, could have AK, AQ, heart draw, 77.

You have to call here.


8ntmuch (United States) 803 Posts. Joined 12-11-2006.
07-06-2009 2:50 PM - In reply to

lordxixor101: 


You have to call here.

Pretty much all that needs to be said.  You beat more then whats beating you here IMO.  If he has QQ+ then just unlucky.  I see AQ+, 88-1010 a lot here too.
 
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