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Maximus020202 (Belgium) 49 Posts. Joined 08-25-2007.
07-04-2009 2:23 PM

PokerStars Game #30093696095: Tournament #175395187, $20+$2 Hold'em No Limit - Level V (25/50) - 2009/07/04 21:16:46 CET [2009/07/04 15:16:46 ET]
Table '175395187 2' 9-max Seat #7 is the button
Seat 1: four3 (817 in chips)
Seat 2: Mktstar (2735 in chips)
Seat 3: El Beestos (5094 in chips)
Seat 4: benji34500 (7520 in chips)
Seat 5: KLASBAK100 (2417 in chips)
Seat 6: tophand2010 (1961 in chips)
Seat 7: schadl79 (2839 in chips)
Seat 8: Maximus0202 (3160 in chips)
Seat 9: Pyramis82 (3505 in chips)
four3: posts the ante 10
Mktstar: posts the ante 10
El Beestos: posts the ante 10
benji34500: posts the ante 10
KLASBAK100: posts the ante 10
tophand2010: posts the ante 10
schadl79: posts the ante 10
Maximus0202: posts the ante 10
Pyramis82: posts the ante 10
Maximus0202: posts small blind 25
Pyramis82: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Maximus0202 [As Ks]
four3: folds
Mktstar: folds
El Beestos: raises 100 to 150
benji34500: folds
KLASBAK100: folds
tophand2010: folds
schadl79: folds
Maximus0202: raises 300 to 450
Pyramis82: folds
El Beestos: calls 300
*** FLOP *** [Jh Ad 8h]
Maximus0202: checks
El Beestos: bets 300
Maximus0202: raises 600 to 900
El Beestos: raises 1000 to 1900

El Beestos is has just sit down at the table.
I feel like I'm probably beat here, but can I lay it down? Half my stack is in the pot..
And is the PF raise fine?
thnx

 
 
 

haha@cubsfans (United States) 24 Posts. Joined 07-05-2009.
07-05-2009 10:08 AM - In reply to

Tough spot. I'd fold. I agree it seems that you are beat. Seems a lot like 88 here, maybe JJ but you'd think he'd have 4 bet preflop possibly with that hand. I'd say  88 or AJ most likely. If you fold you still have 1810 chips with blinds at 25/50 and you'd be fine and have to reason to panic.


jdawg0913 (United States) 581 Posts. Joined 12-19-2006.
07-06-2009 10:13 AM - In reply to

I do not like the raise preflop with your stack size. You are inflating the pot out of position against an early position raiser with a drawing hand. is it possible to get 63 big blinds in preflop with ur hand and be a head or a slight underdog? prolly not. Ak out of position is super tough to play. with ur stack and position i take a more conservative line. call preflop. check call flop and re-evaluate the turn.

by taking ur line (which is aggro and perfectly normal) u put urself in a position where u put half ur stack in and are thinking about folding. His hand is either AJ, JJ, 88, Ax (pair flush draw).   that being sd, a less aggro line preflop would have saved u a few chips, maybe got to a cheaper showdown, and maybe even won if u improved or he just had A with a flush draw.


LordPye (United States) 1,530 Posts. Joined 05-27-2008.
07-06-2009 10:55 AM - In reply to

If you're check raising this flop you have to get it in, period.  Otherwise you just turned your TPTK into a bluff.  I dont mind the raise preflop, but c/r postflop and then folding here would be horrid.  TPTK here is a nice hand, but it's certainly not a power house on a very lively board OOP.  I'd C/C postflop and reevaluate from there.


8ntmuch (United States) 803 Posts. Joined 12-11-2006.
07-06-2009 2:45 PM - In reply to

He could possibly have a set of J's or 8's, but I think he often shows up here with AQ+ and draws IMO.  He may even show up with QQ/KK.  As played I probably get it all in and take my lumps if he has a set, there is just to much in the pot to just c/r/f.


FBorges (Portugal) 17 Posts. Joined 12-09-2007.
07-06-2009 3:34 PM - In reply to

id clearly lead the flop since there are so many draws. As played i don´t think u can ever fold against an unknown villain after the c/r...

 
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