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Re:Good article on poker bill....Digg if you like it
The last line is interesting, "even on horse racing". The DoJ never gives up. dave
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Jun 8th, 2009
Re:“Cybersecurity Act of 2009” New legislation in the US Senate will allow Feds to control the internet
This would be an ideal piece of legislation for the PPA to focus on defeating as an enhancement to the efforts to regulate OLP. obg
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
May 22nd, 2009
Re:Let's tell Obama that we want online poker rights in America
all done, lets try and get to 50K points! obg
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Jan 14th, 2009
HOW To Reply to Letters Received
I have (and so have many) noticed a recurring theme in letter responses from Senator’s and House Representatives who oppose Internet Wagering, Internet gambling has become too easily accessible to minors and it violates state laws. This, when these letters are received needs to be addressed in an immediate reply, both by e-mail and printed and mailed. I received the same initial response from one of my Senator’s and my Congressional representative citing this same uninformed reply. Now, how to counter this is simple and easy. . 1. Point out (if your state is one) that skill games violate ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
May 7th, 2008
Re:Here's a reply from Senator Feinstein
I have (and so have many) noticed a recurring theme in letter responses from Senator’s and House Representatives who oppose Internet Wagering, Internet gambling has become too easily accessible to minors and it violates state laws. This, when these letters are received needs to be addressed in an immediate reply, both by e-mail and printed and mailed. I received the same initial response from one of my Senator’s and my Congressional representative citing this same uninformed reply. Now, how to counter this is simple and easy. 1. Point out (if your state is one) that skill games violate no ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
May 7th, 2008
Re(2): Where can i find the actual law
NOTE on the McDermott Bill: That is an excise tax and it states, if passed, the 2% may not be deducted from the depositor funds. obg
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Feb 19th, 2008
Re(2): Reply to: Guy claims a passing poker bills BAD for online thread
I recall that well and wrote a detailed response at the PPA and 2+2 as follows: After much research, I have found governing Federal Rules that govern Sweepstakes, Contests AND Games of Skill, which the Wexler Bill relates to. The latter, Games of Skill of course is our concern, though the whole section is together, just Games of Skill have more liberal payment requirements and NO free entry requirement. The following is why, the Wexler Bill is good for us since other options are not. This can be read at and you can search or use the link: From that link it states “Unlike sweepstakes, ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Feb 19th, 2008
Re(1): Online poker in the USA
I am always hopeful an the letter in the thread below: shows progress is being made. Little needs to be changed I personally believe, in the current UIGEA Bill or perhaps nothing, rather an updating / clarification of the Skill Games Rules instituted by the Federal Trade Commission under the current Sweepstakes rules that already allows skill based games to have a required entry fee. See link: Skill Contests There’s one notable exception: skill contests. These are puzzles, games or other contests in which prizes are awarded based on skill, knowledge or talent – not on chance. ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Feb 19th, 2008
Re(5): EU settles with US on WTO gambling withdrawal
Lets hope it is not all bad news. Some hope, though the amount is low to our overall economy, to the effected businesses it will be different. Take the Byrd Amendment case, the WTO authorized 4 billion in retaliation, eventually congress caved. This will easily exceed that 4 billion between the USTR give aways and the WTO award to Antigua. Read the case at the Cato Institute: NOTE: At the time of writing the article, Congress had yet to comply with the WTO and the thought then, as now, was Congress would not comply, risking the downfall of the WTO. In 2005 Congress did relent, the new ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 19th, 2007
Re(3): EU settles with US on WTO gambling withdrawal
The E.U and other countries were third party to the Antigua claim. That is they reserved their rights. So, by doing this, as a third party, in theory perhaps, if the U S were to allow remote gaming from Antigua, this would piggyback to them. This allowed them, without filing their own claim, to reap benifits if Antigua won, and they did. These benifits were unlooked for when the U. S. decided to withdraw the commitment, they were given a windfall having never actually had to fight the U. S. and strain relations being seen as trying to push gambling in the U. S. while actually seeking ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 19th, 2007
Re(1): EU settles with US on WTO gambling withdrawal
Copy from another forum: Originally Posted by Legislurker Some sort of conference call at 930. Any chances we have a fly on the wall for it' Article states we can call an 800 number, enter a code and listen / participate. obg
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 17th, 2007
Re(4): Vote against Mike Huckabee
I am not specifically a RP supporter, though I am not against him either. In-fact, I really see none of the candidates that really excite me, though RP has some challenging ideas. No chance, though I would not prop bet anything, if I were in Iowa, I would consider caucusing for him. The one thing everyone is not seeing in his numbers; most of his support is from the independents, new voters and democratic converts. That Ventura guy who won the governorship, no one gave him a chance. Poll numbers were bad, etc. No, I do not count RP out. I read someplace a mere 25,000 votes in Iowa will ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 17th, 2007
Re(1): EU settles with US on WTO gambling withdrawal
The BBC is reporting the US is to make an offer, not that a deal is done as yet, the EU will have to approve this deal. As to congress, in a meeting several months ago with Sen. Rockefeller's office, they were of the opinion ANY deal made would require congressional approval as well. The 'fast track' trade authorization given to Bush by the GOP expired as well and was not renewed as fars as I recall by the current congress. This required a yes / no vote only by congress with no modifications / amendments allowed by congress. So, all is not lost, yet. Plus, do you (I do not) ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 17th, 2007
Re(1): DELAYED: Re(12): WTO decision due Dec 14th
An important 2 facts from the story: 1. On Monday Antigua expects to know WHEN the report will be ready. 2. More importantly, Antigua's lawyer IS in D.C. meeting with Rangel of the Ways & Means Committee, today causing my speculation a deal may be in the works. The unknown is what is transpiring between Rangel and the USTR. Recall, the USTR indicated the office would work with Congress on a solution in response to the letter sent by Rangel et al following the last hearing on Internet Wagering. Thus, we need to be gearing up to redouble our efforts as Congress returns from Christmas ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 14th, 2007
Time To Redouble Efforts To Congress
The time is drawing near for a redoubling of our efforts to cajole Congress into acting on the pending legislation near and dear to us. In the days leading up to the return from Christmas break we need to great them with many good letters and reasons to act. Areas we need to begin exploring and discussing to base the thrust of our position are (please add to this list): The really impossible task of writing accurate regulations to prevent overblocking a. TBD b. TBD c. TBD The delay of the Antigua / WTO sanctions ruling allows another window of opportunity for the U. S. to avoid costly ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 14th, 2007
DELAYED: Re(12): WTO decision due Dec 14th
Delayed, as I expected as reported by Reuters. obg
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 14th, 2007
Re(10): WTO decision due Dec 14th
Ah, but, the bigger thing is, should legislation be passed acceptable to Antigua then the U S does NOT withdraw the commitment, ergo, no E U claim which is solely based on the U S withdrawal of the agreement, the E U would have to file its own claim over sports betting. In the stead, we have poker. obg
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 14th, 2007
Re(8): WTO decision due Dec 14th
Nor am I an expert, I only read what is printed in the dispute settlement and posted to the Antigua WTO site. Agreed, Jay has provided much valuable information and insight to us all. Also read (Panel%2011.10.04).htm From International Relations, who teach said same in relation to the U.S. As to the Wexler bill, random thoughts here ONLY. Considering there was a meeting hosted in Antigua and attended by many prominant congressmen, perhaps that may have been discussed, there was a statement and letter following that meeting with a desire to pass legislation acceptable to the WTO, Antigua ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 14th, 2007
Re(6): WTO decision due Dec 14th
I do think any monetary ruling announced today in whatever the amount will detail the specifics as to why that amount was settled on. That said, I do not look for it to actually include sports betting. Why, simple. Read the case as presented at Go to the second section, paragraph 2 which states: First, the Appellate Body ruled that the US had made a commitment to free trade in betting and gambling services in its schedule of commitments to the General Agreement on Trade in Services ("GATS"). The US had contended throughout the dispute that it had not made such a ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 14th, 2007
Chris Dodd live NOW
He is live on Google, post poker questions, NO registration required! #comment-42999 obg
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 10th, 2007
Re(1): MA Governor Proposes Criminalizing Online Poker!!!
There is a hearing on this bill Dec. 18. Should you all lat-back and wait' Not no, but, hell no. From what I can recall, you all were told there would be NO hearings on this matter until spring. Somehow December 18 is NOT spring. Someone seems to have been playing someone. Scheduling this so early and right at the height of the Christmas shopping season just seems like there may be an attempt to slide this through while everyone is busy, trying to maybe put a lump of coal in your stockings' Also, besides World Winner (a Newton, Ma. skill games company), Waltham is the home of Lycos () ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 9th, 2007
Re(2): this is my new home
Hey all, glad we are together in an open forum again WITtHOUT a bunch of nit picking and in fighting! Now, lets fight the fight worth fighting, AND win! See ya here and at PPA, CP and my other old haunts. obg
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 7th, 2007
Re(1): Harrah's and MGM's CEOs say U.S.-based Internet poker soon
Yers, exciting news, but read carefully, there is better news there fore us. Recall ther hearing before congress and the concerns of age / location verification. Quoting from the article; "The company set up an Internet gaming site in 2001 in the Isle of Man but quickly folded the operation. The site lost money because the company elected to undergo a more stringent registration process than its competitors. However, the endeavor helped the company work out problems that will be useful when relaunching, such as how to determine a bettor's age and location and how to protect problem ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 7th, 2007
Re(1): Bob Goodlatte Takes $40,000 in Contributions From Horseracing Industry!
has a good video on you tube showing how Goodlatte played three card monty with the donations as well. Towards the end of the almost 10 minute video. He was really creative and I must say, nah, no christian (') bashing tonight. obg
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 7th, 2007
Re(2): Voice Your Opinion on the UIGEA Regulations
I have noticed a theme of sorts that has developed in the regs comments that center on over-blocking due I believe to a lack of understanding of what actually constitutes illegal internet gambling, even in the face of the agencies being directed by the UIGEA itself to develop regs that prevent this while blocking ‘illegal’ betting. Impossible to do I would surmise. Anyway, here is my comment to the board based entirely on the agencies own words and those of the UIGEA itself. Comments before I submit' December 07, 2007 Jennifer J. Johnson Secretary, Board of Governors of the ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 7th, 2007
Re(2): Voice Your Opinion on the UIGEA Regulations
December 07, 2007 Jennifer J. Johnson Secretary, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System 20th Street and Constitution Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC 20551 RE: Comments, Docket No. R-1298 Dear Secretary Johnson: I am writing in regard to the requested comments concerning overblocking, creating a list of illegal sites and developing merchant codes per the request (Docket No. R-1298) implementing the Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 (UIGEA). Though you request comments on each section individually, the two are intimately linked and dependent on the other so I ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 7th, 2007
Re(1): Please Submit Comments on the UIGEA Regulations to the Federal Government by Dec. 12th!
Hey TE, obg here, following is my latest comment. I have noticed a theme developing from several concerning over-blocking and lack of a definition of what IS UIG. Actually, in the UIGEA itself, there is a section directing the regs writers to design the regs specifically to avoid blocking legal (at least those specifically as legal) from over blocking, I folled the stated theme using the un-blocking requirement. Letter as follows: December 07, 2007 Jennifer J. Johnson Secretary, Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System 20th Street and Constitution Avenue, N.W. Washington, DC ...
Posted in: Poker Legislation 		oldbookguy
Dec 7th, 2007