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Luck on HBO You guys will have a blast, but I've done it enough times that I can do without the circus and actually enjoy the day more being someplace a bit quieter where I can focus on the handicapping. Personally, I would only go back if I had decent reserved seats somewhere, but that's only because I've done the general admission infield stuff a few times in the past and I prefer bourbon to draft Miller Lite these days. Something everyone should do, especially if someone is tossing real seats your way. Attending Keeneland in April on a nice weather Fri or Sat is IMO an even better experience. There ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Mar 27th, 2012 |
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Luck on HBO Depends on what your definition of "normal" is. As I said, they are freak occurrences and very rarely happen, but they have happened in the past. I still remember this tragedy involving a filly, Three Ring, who was so good they raced her in the Derby that year. She got repeatedly body checked into the rail and ran in the back half of the field that day, but came out and won a Grade 1 stakes in her next. The race after that they were saddling her in the paddock and she just freaked out and flipped over and broke her skull right there in front of thousands of ppl. So it happens to even the ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Mar 27th, 2012 |
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Luck on HBO Kelly Kip is correct above, I read that 2 of the 3 horse death were complete freak accidents that had nothing to do with racing scenes. One, a horse walking back to the barn slipping and falling on a shoulder/pelvis which was fractured. It wasn't immediately apparent the horse would need to be put down, so he was given some drugs for the pain, but later it was determined he(she') should be put down. PETA then goes thru the results of the necropsy and reads that there were drugs in the horses system and says they "assume the drugs were given before the horse was racing" and used this as the ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Mar 26th, 2012 |
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Illegal everything! Shocking that you have not a single fucking clue what you are talking about. By law you cannot label something 100% organic if it contains GMOs. Yes, you can label something "organic" and get away with trying to trick people, which is why you have to know the difference between organic and 100% organic. None of this changes the base premise. It matters not which specific attribute of "organic" foods you are talking about, when you make blanket statements comparing the safety "regular" foods to "organic" as being basically the same without covering those details, not only is it shoddy ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 27th, 2012 |
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Illegal everything! And you are a fucking idiot who can't understand the context of anything you read or hear. Stossel is CLEARLY saying in everything that has been posted ITT that non-organic produce (and livestock feed) is no less dangerous than organic produce. It's a general statement that I have a HUGE problem with, for reasons already described here. It doesn't matter if he is saying organic produce is more dangerous or equally dangerous, each of those comments equally detract from the real questions about GMOs. It's a deflection technique to move the discussion away from what we really should be talking ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 26th, 2012 |
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Illegal everything! Does the tap water contain genetically altered proteins that might be increasing allergy and cancer rates in the US' If so, then the bottled water is much better. Look, I agree on the labeling thing and people trying to profit off it, but I will take a "poorer quality" organic tomato over one that is potentially contributing to increases in food allergy and cancer rates any day. an incredible difference between this and introducing new chemically altered proteins to seed. Sorry you can't see the difference. It is' Maybe it wouldn't be if the corn we were eating the last 20 years were ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 26th, 2012 |
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Illegal everything! But he is trying to convince people that they are just as safe and telling you not to worry about it. Despite the fact that you should be, if you give a fuck about your health or the health of your children. Which to me, is on even par with deliberately using false information in terms of doing an incredible disservice to the viewing public. Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 26th, 2012 |
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Illegal everything! Want me to get back on topic as to why Stossel is a complete hack as a journalist' OK, be back with many more examples later tonight after the OSU game. Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 26th, 2012 |
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Illegal everything! You obviously still have not watched it yet. The video never made any of the points addressed in the article you posted, it is pointless to this discussion. The one thing organics do that is not addressed in your article (or any of Stossel's comments) is that they do not used genetically modified seed. The video I posted asks some pretty important questions about GMO seed and provides some pretty sobering stats on food-borne allergies and cancer rates in the US compared to the rest of the world since these were introduced in the mid 1990s (and widely rejected by most other countries). You ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 26th, 2012 |
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Illegal everything! It's funny, when Dan Rather blamed inaccuracies on his producer, he was still fired and everyone assumed he really knew what he was doing as well. It's also funny that he states with 100% certainty that organic food is not healthier. Would love to hear his response to the data and historical food industry actions (that were only taken by the US) show in the piece I posted earlier. There must be some other explanation for the exploding and disproportionate cancer rate in the US and the explosion of food allergies. Gotta be something other than pesticides and genetically altered crops (like ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 26th, 2012 |
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Illegal everything! Yes, so you give a report seen by millions saying that there is more pesticide residue on organic produce than regular, and leave millions of people believing that, despite the fact that the lab never even tested for it. Then bury an apology later, with a ridiculous excuse that you "misunderstood" the lab results on an item the lab had not even tested for. The whole time pushing an angle that sounds strangely like corporate propaganda to reverse the actual data coming out about non-organic food that gets more disturbing every year. Solid journalism, definitely a person worth listening to. ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 26th, 2012 |
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Illegal everything! Perhaps it had something to do with the ridiculously falsified story he did on organic foods for ABC. If I were his producers, I'd definitely be paying a lot more attention to his topics and checking his research before allowing him to air anything after that complete crock of shit. He should have been fired on the spot. If you want to call the refusal to listen to a journalist who has so blatantly lied and falsified information a "liberal bias", I suppose that is your right. Sane people want facts and opinions from credible journalists who don't just blatantly make shit up and discredit ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 26th, 2012 |
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I got roasted by Jeff Ross Well worth the watch, great stuff Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 26th, 2012 |
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I'm done with boxing He absolutely is, but I'm still ready to puke over having the same thought he did. Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 19th, 2012 |
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I'm done with boxing People said the same thing when Mario Lemieux retired Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 19th, 2012 |
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Peter Luger Or Ruth's Chris... The OP has to be a level, question is a joke. If you can't get into Lugars, Wolfgangs in Tribeca is a good alternative, similar style and menu and their bacon is just as good IMO. Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 19th, 2012 |
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The reason why 45 percent of Americans don't pay federal income tax. payrolltax excl. It might be incorrect to say it was 150 a year, no one ever said it was evenly distributed over the 10 years. But the bill(s) had a 10 year projected cost of 1.5 trillion dollars, its right there in the bill that Republicans agreed to and signed. And when you compare the piss poor performance of revenues over this span to all the others you mentioned, plus the Clinton years when rates were raised, that money had to have went somewhere. I don't think anyone will ever know exactly how accurate those estimates were, but to pretend like they weren't at least in the ball park when you look at ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 16th, 2012 |
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The reason why 45 percent of Americans don't pay federal income tax. payrolltax excl. Yes, if you want to be a fucking idiot and paint an extremely broad brush over 50 years of data, you could make an incredibly dumbed-down observation like that. Or you could look at the Clinton years vs. the Bush years (and most of the Reagan years) and understand that once Clinton policies were in place revenues were always above 19%, sometimes way above, and that with Bush policy in place they have always been below 19%, and sometime way below, like 16.3% and 16.5% during times of rapid expansion. with 1% of GDP being 130 billion dollars every year, don't try to tell me that fractional ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 16th, 2012 |
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The reason why 45 percent of Americans don't pay federal income tax. payrolltax excl. OOOOOOOH 25% growth over 8 years! Which is pretty much the weakest revenue growth for a 8 year span since WW2. Jimmy Carter grew revenues by nearly 50% in 4 years. You are proving the point. No one ever said it would lose money overall (even though it did if you compare 2003 and 2004 with 2001), what they said was it would cause less money to come in compared to if they otherwise were not in place. Which when you look at how incredibly weak revenue performance was during the Bush presidency, seems to be 100% true. The bills in 2001 and 2003 had an estimated cost in lost revenue of about 1.5 ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 16th, 2012 |
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Horse...Horseracing - HBO "Luck" Pick 6 LOL, yeah it was pretty unremarkable. EDIT - the 1/5 shot won the 2nd to last race, setting up potential payouts just like in Luck, except the values were much smaller. I was looking at 4.4k, 4.8k or 24k with the 3 horses I had remaining. I had thrown the favorite out of the last leg, but he romped at even money. 6 of 6 paid 1200, pretty generous considering there was a 1-5, 2-5, 1-1, and 5-2 shots in 4 of the 6 legs and no double digit horses the whole way. 5 of 6 paid $34 and I had 3 different combinations with 5 of 6, so I cashed $102 for a small loss. Nothing could be more standard, ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 6th, 2012 |
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NFL Playoff Handy Challenge - Super Bowl Info Here were the final standings of those in contention. Kev and I chopped (800+400) for 600 each and skate21221 took 3rd for $250. This contest was definitely different and hard for me to say I didn't like it given the results! Hope everyone enjoyed it and thanks again for playing. kev19 16 6 0 72.73% Tread 16 6 0 72.73% skate21221 15 7 0 68.18% ckwhoa 14 8 0 63.64% BigEarn 13 9 0 59.09% chipcrippler 13 9 0 59.09% Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 5th, 2012 |
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NFL Playoff Handy Challenge - Super Bowl Info Kev picked Giants and Over as did BigEarn and Chip Crippler skate and I picked Giants and under. ckwhoa picked pats and over. BigEarn and chipcrippler are elimiated, there is no way they can tie for 3rd. if the game goes Giants and under, ckwhoa is eliminated. Kev and I tie and skate comes in 3rd If the game goes giants and over, kev19 wins and ckwhoa and I tie for 2nd If the game goes pats/under, kev, ck, and I all tie and chop If the game goes pats/over, kev and ck tie for 1st and I get 3rd. Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 5th, 2012 |
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NFL Playoff Handy Challenge - Super Bowl Info I will post scenarios shortly after kickoff Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 5th, 2012 |
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Horse...Horseracing - HBO "Luck" Pick 6 I do, trained mostly on the NYRA circuit right' This is almost assuredly a jinx post, but what the hell. My ticket is 4 for 4 so far, and we have beaten 3 favorites. Race 3 - the 6 won and paid $16, the 2 got second and I gave out the exacta (I thankfully landed on the 6 instead of the 8) Race 4 - got a very short price in 2/5 on the 5 horse after the 9 scratched. This will make the overall ticket not pay much, but better than losing. The 8 got 2nd but the exacta only paid $4 Race 5 - The 8 romped at 4-1 odds. 5 was there most of the way but faded in the stretched and finished out of ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 5th, 2012 |
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Horse...Horseracing - HBO "Luck" Pick 6 Didn't catch ep2 yet, I'm guessing they focused too much on the racing consulting and didn't put much toward the poker consulting. A shame if they did that bad a job with it. FWIW I could care less about the Dustin Hoffman character, I fwd thru all his scenes when I rewatch the pilot. Here are my plays for the pick 6 today, it starts in the upcoming Race 3: Race 3 - 2 will be a deserving favorite, but I will probably also use the 6 or 8 in this leg, make a game time decision or use all three of them if you can afford it. Race 4 - This maiden race is probably the toughest on the card. I am ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 5th, 2012 |
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Horse...Horseracing - HBO "Luck" Pick 6 Life likely to imitate art today, as strangely enough on the day the next episode airs on HBO, there is a huge 2 day carry over on the pick 6 bet at Santa Anita. This is a fairly rare occurrence in real life, despite it happening in the first episode of the show. Under normal conditions, the pool would likely get close to 2 million today, but I'm not sure how the super bowl might affect it. They have an earlier post time (11am PST) to try to get ppl to still come to the track, but if ppl are wrapped up getting ready for super bowl parties, then there may be much less action than normal. On ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 5th, 2012 |
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West Virginia cancels Sept 8th at Florida State: discussion I don't believe I said anywhere that the money was exactly the same overall. What I did say is, crying and acting like they got fucked out of millions and millions of dollars if completely ridiculous. They don't charge anymore for marquee games (which is a highly dubious distinction here, since West Virginia is one of the most incredibly overrated programs the last 5 years in football, and FSU has done nothing but underachieve during that timeframe as well) than they do Charleston Southern, for tickets. Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 5th, 2012 |
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West Virginia cancels Sept 8th at Florida State: discussion I gave you the exact logic that the WVU AD went thru when making this decision. I'm sorry if you are too dense and biased to understand it. He is responsible for his bottom line, not FSUs. FSU will still schedule a game, sell out their stadium, and make 5mm+. If they feel they got fucked over, they can cancel the next game with WVU as well and pay their penalty to back out. They have that right. But none of this crybaby bullshit changes any of the reality of why the WV AD made the decision he did. there is very little different in stadium revenue, if it is sold out, it is sold out. Yeah, ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 4th, 2012 |
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West Virginia cancels Sept 8th at Florida State: discussion fuck FSU out of millions, are you fucking kidding me' They had 75k fucking ppl come watch them play Charleston Southern last year. It doesnt make any difference who they end up taking that spot with, they will still make the same money. No, I see how ridiculous yours is. Your argument assumes FSU wont replace that game with someone like Charlestown Southern and still sell their stadium out, which they do every year anyway. So FSU is not fucked over in the least. Get a clue. Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 4th, 2012 |
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West Virginia cancels Sept 8th at Florida State: discussion Not sure why there is any question at all as to why this was done. They had 4 non-conf games and had to cancel on due to picking up an extra conf game. So you are the AD and you have to cancel one game, your options are: Home game you always sell out Home game you always sell out neutral field game at Fed Ex field you are being paid a shit load to play Away game with a 350k escape clause Which of these options takes the least financial hit' Very easily the away game. You will lose MILLIONS in revenue by giving up one of the home games. This game was chosen because it offered the least ... Posted in: Off Topic |
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Feb 4th, 2012 |

