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Matthew Collum If people think that a little government here and a little government there doesn't mean that the governments going to end up controlling society... look at what happened economically. Matthew Collum .... and I'm even economically liberal. Matthew Collum IT IS STILL NOT IMPOSSIBLE TO CHANGE THOUGH!! NOT YET! Matthew Collum "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington Matthew

I'm pretty sure you guys are jealous :D. I actually came up with a reasonable answer for once and I'm getting mouthed over the religious issue when that wasn't even the point.

no. Not right now. I think religion still playing a major role causes people to be set back in society. In the end, yes if people will ever slow down and pay attention to those who are suppressed.

Religious institutions are a form of suppression just like the government. So I guess that it is an indirect point.

Religion plays into many other things like mental illness. I was classified as schizophrenic because I disagreed with society. That's why I have to get on disabilty. In mental institutions people are forced to take drugs when it is accepted in a way that it is acceptable to society.

[quote user="LDM"]not in our country. they're voluntary here. in times past and other countries maybe. But, are you for unregulated and free economies? is that what you mean by "economically liberal"?? [/quote] in the end- yes. As soon as our society is stable enough again. The New Deal caused a lot of rebellion that I didn't even notice until recently. People may be evil in some aspects but it isn't until others try to suppress them.

[quote user="LDM"]not in our country. they're voluntary here. in times past and other countries maybe. [/quote] I will be blunt. You are wrong about this.

[quote user="dpottz"]so...no, then [/quote] Actually it is still yes. Looking back on things tells me that the government really can become become something that kills our society, or at least makes things distorted to a point where no one finds reason. "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master." George Washington

o yeah. It's important to know that I don't have health insurance, and my credit is now below 600 all for disagreeing with others.

Our parties also manipulate us pretty good as well. For example, Obama supports the Patriot Act. No one talks about the deficit any longer on the Democratic side.