Barry Greenstein Defends PokerStars Against Bad Actor Argument

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Barry Greenstein (pictured), Poker Hall of Famer and Team PokerStarsPro, took to his blog this week to make a case for why his sponsor doesn’t deserve to be labeled a “bad actor” and prohibited from doing business in the US by state governments considering legalizing online poker. Read the blog.

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“Bad actor” language is technically meant as a protection to consumers from nefarious gaming operators and has been inserted into the online poker legislation of various states. Generally, any company that continued to offer online gambling in the US after the UIGEA was passed is branded with the label.

But as the three-time bracelet winner says, it’s no secret that this type of verbiage is targeted directly at PokerStars, the site that upstart gambling interests fear will quickly corner the market, leaving little profits for them.

Before Amaya’s acquisition of PokerStars, the company’s opponents highlighted the fact that founder Isai Scheinberg (pictured) had been indicted for violating the UIGEA, yet was still involved with the company. But Greenstein questions the legality of that indictment altogether after years of discussions with company lawyers and executives.

“In every case, in every decision that was made, I was told PokerStars had lawyers who closely examine every detail to ensure that they were not violating any law and that their actions could be defended if they have to go to court or make their case for being licensed in the United States,” he said.

He gave one example where Stars’ attorneys did, in fact, find issue with the legality of a situation and decided to play it safe when other companies did not. “When the state of Washingtonpassed a law banning online poker, PokerStars pulled out,” he reminded. “Because UIGEA made it more difficult for payment processors to accept payments, some of them used deceptive (and probably illegal) methods for accepting funds.”

The consequences for those operators who blatantly disregarded the law, as he pointed out, were severe. “Full Tilt‘s decision to continue accepting deposits from these payment processors ended up contributing greatly to their bankruptcy,” he continued.

Greenstein also highlighted the fact that soon after Scheinberg’s indictment, the DOJ had a change of heart and issued a memo clarifying that the Wire Act only prohibited online sports betting, not all forms of internet gambling. “You would think that after this judgment was handed down, all the charges would be dropped and PokerStars would be viewed in the right,” he said. “[But] due to the indictment, PokerStars [was] worth too much money to the Department of Justice.”

The pro bashes his employer’s competitors, whom he said spend “an incredible amount of time and money” lobbying to keep PokerStars out of the US. But now that the company has been sold to Amaya, he said, the proponents of the “bad actor clause” lose their argument again.

Greenstein described the company as having a “family culture,” which only tries to be the best “and will spare no expense to do it.” He believes that other operators can’t compete against Stars, “because PokerStars gained deep respect from the poker community for quickly repaying US customers after Black Friday and bailing out Full Tilt.”

In the end, he believed the opposition is simply based on the fear that, if PokerStars reenters the market, “they will continue to be the leading company as they have been for the last several years in Europe and as they were doing in the United States before they got shut down.”

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    • pokerstars isn’t gonna lead nothing in the united states there only gonna have new jersey those other sites are gonna get other states so if you can’t play globally or you don’t get in other states pokerstars will suck in america just my opinion…

    • pokerstars isn’t gonna lead nothing in the united states there only gonna have new jersey those other sites are gonna get other states so if you can’t play globally or you don’t get in other states pokerstars will suck in america just my opinion…

      Something many people, yourself included are forgetting. Once Stars gets going and all the little kinks get ironed out. The state is already working on licensing to allow international pools. I believe I read something about it either here or on another forum. New Jersey knows that the best way to make the most from Stars and online poker going forward is to first get the giant in, then expand to allow ROW players with NJ. It WILL happen IMO we just have to be patient. It is almost like owning Facebook and not wanting it to expand internationally while your competition is expanding and kicking your ass. No way, they will get it done I am optimistic!!

    • Something many people, yourself included are forgetting. Once Stars gets going and all the little kinks get ironed out. The state is already working on licensing to allow international pools. I believe I read something about it either here or on another forum. New Jersey knows that the best way to make the most from Stars and online poker going forward is to first get the giant in, then expand to allow ROW players with NJ. It WILL happen IMO we just have to be patient. It is almost like owning Facebook and not wanting it to expand internationally while your competition is expanding and kicking your ass. No way, they will get it done I am optimistic!!

      This, NJ seems to be determined to be one of the biggest regulatory authorities in OLP and has made it pretty clear they plan on allowing regulated international pools to join their pool sooner than later. I can’t imagine ever wanting to live in a shit hole like NJ, but I will be moving the day this happens if they are the only state to do it.

    • This, NJ seems to be determined to be one of the biggest regulatory authorities in OLP and has made it pretty clear they plan on allowing regulated international pools to join their pool sooner than later. I can’t imagine ever wanting to live in a shit hole like NJ, but I will be moving the day this happens if they are the only state to do it.

      So I guess you read it somewhere too. I know it will only be a matter of time. Come on NJ lets get this done, I am 50 miles from NYC and Jersey is right there, so yea, eager!!!

    • pokerstars isn’t gonna lead nothing in the united states there only gonna have new jersey those other sites are gonna get other states so if you can’t play globally or you don’t get in other states pokerstars will suck in america just my opinion…

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