Dan Colman Calls Phil Hellmuth “Spineless” and a “Cancer”

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In a thread discussing Phil Hellmuth’s appearance on a podcasthosted by Rounders writer Brian Koppelman, 2014 Big One for One Drop winner Dan Colman (pictured) had some unexpectedly harsh words for the so-called Poker Brat.

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It’s embarrassing that we have to share our profession with whores like this guy,” he said. “After I win One Drop, he immediately comes on stage to shake my hand in front of a camera and congratulate me. As if he’s the gatekeeper to the poker world and welcoming me inside.”

The 23-year-old confused and infuriated the media following his $15.3 million score in this year’s One Drop by refusing to give interviews or pose for pictures. Instead, he opted to post inside a thread on 2+2, saying that he didn’t “owe poker a single thing,” and described it as a “dark game.”

In his post on Thursday, Colman tore into Hellmuth (pictured), criticizing his infamous table behavior as well as his previous association with Ultimate Bet. “It is truly pathetic that a 40 year old would behave the way he does at the table, not to mention how spineless he is, just willing to take any sponsorship regardless of the company’s integrity,” he continued. “Hey, anything for a payday! Really makes me sad to think there’s a chance some people may look up to this charlatan. People of his attitude and character are a cancer to this world.”

The contentious post sparked a lively debate in the poker community, with WSOP announcer Lon McEachern quickly coming to Hellmuth’s aid on Twitter.

If Dan Colman does as much for helping the game as Phil Hellmuth has done, poker will be in great shape for many years to come. #ButWillHe

PokerStars’ Head of Public Relations Michael Josem acknowledged that Hellmuth had likely spurred thousands of players to deposit on UB, but believes that the 13-time bracelet winner’s association with the now-disgraced company overshadows those efforts.

“I understand that the guy received payments from UB after Black Friday, and UB was unable to pay back the money to players,” he said. “I feel that he might be able to claim that he was negligently ignorant in the UB cheating… but to still receive money AFTER BLACK FRIDAY from the company really leaves no kind words to be said to him.”

On Twitter, Phil responded to Colman’s shot:

“Ouch, I was just attacked big time on a terrific poker forum: TwoPlusTwo. It was personal and it hurts, but I am proud of the man I am!”

2013 WSOP Main Event runner-up Jay Farber (pictured) chimed in, showing support for Hellmuth. “I’ll take @phil_hellmuth over Colman any day,” he responded. “One person is an ambassador for the game, the other rides a moral high horse.”

Others like ASPoker8 were unmoved: “It is not a surprise to see Phil immediately throw up a post about how his feelings are hurt, while never once in history addressing the legitimate questions about the payments he received from UB after the cheating scandal, after the straight up theft, and even after Black Friday.”

Colman later rolled back his comments, saying that Hellmuth wasn’t “exactly a cancer to society” but that “it definitely doesn’t do us any good when people like him shamelessly self promote and try to sell themselves.” But his resentment was clearly exacerbated by the Poker Brat’s congratulatory handshake after the One Drop.

It brought back the bitter taste I had in my mouth when he came up on the stage after the One Drop win and actually said ‘congratulations, welcome to the poker world kid,’” he griped. “Never met him apart from that but I am sure he’s an overall nice guy, just really not a fan of how he conducts himself.”

38 COMMENTS

    • I’m not the biggest Hellmuth fan in the world, but you can’t deny that this guy has had a major impact on the growth of this game. He’s entertaining and a personality… all of which are good selling points. Wasn’t aware of him accepting payments after UB was brought down, but still, he was a paid sponsor of the site. I doubt I’m turning down payments if I had a contract, but maybe I’m the scum of the earth.I’m still trying to find out how Dan Coleman even got involved in this “dark” game. I swear this dude thinks he’s as pure as Christ himself. To me, he has 0 credibility because of the hypocrisy that constantly spews from his mouth. To me, he comes across as a person who thinks he knows what’s best for everyone. Worry about yourself dude… do your thing and we’ll all do our thing.

    • this guy should really just go about his business and keep collecting his millions, seems like he really doesnt respect the game much or the people that helped bring poker to what it is today, ya so what phil lets his emotions show at the table, right or wrong good to actually see there is still a human element left in this game and not just a bunch of robots, seems like every pro has much respect for hellmuth whether or not they agree with his table antics, whatever gets you through the “dark” nights//

    • Phil your feelings are hurt??? Do you know how many people who you have hurt? Calling them every name in the book. A young Phil Ivey put you in your place. You reap what you sow. Soon it will be Colman’s turn

    • If Dan Colman thinks poker is such a dark game and people are losing money they can’t afford, then why does he keep playing? If he is really so worried about the general poker playing public, yet continues to play, what does that make him?

    • Dan Coleman – why don’t you stay all “deep” and “mysterious” and just shut up. Like or hate Phil he is one of the guys that draws more and more people into the game and that helps every good players bankroll…..he also has the most bracelets from wsop….so show some respect. What?!! You’re going to knock the guy AFTER he shakes your hand (by the way Phil can have the camera spotlight whenever he wants it – he may crave the spotlight but the cameras will come to him whether you are there or not)…..show some respect and please just go away…..talk about a poker brat.

    • If Dan Colman thinks poker is such a dark game and people are losing money they can’t afford, then why does he keep playing? If he is really so worried about the general poker playing public, yet continues to play, what does that make him?

      A hypocrite.

    • Colman keep your opinions to yourself because the thoughts going on in your head are ridiculous. I don’t think he was acting like the “gatekeeper” of poker I think you just saw it that way because you are full of hatred and suspicion and criticism. Your mindset is cancer to others and you will drag down everyone around you with your opinions and criticism unless you seriously clean your mind out.

    • when u go on a heater and cooler everyone for 22mill in one year I guess you get a sense of superiority

      lol total POS

    • obvious attempt at staying in the spotlight is obvious. No difference between Coleman making inflammatory statements and phil popping in front of the camera every time its on.

    • I’m surprised coleman doesnt do interviews with the popular media. He likes to run his mouth everywhere else.

    • Coleman seems to be socially inept and unable to put his brain into gear before he opens his mouth when under media pressure (include forums in this). Taking this into account, his general awkward looking appearance and obvious natural poker talent makes me wonder if he is on the autistic spectrum? If that’s the case then, perhaps its not ‘his’ fault and he just needs some guidance and counselling.

    • Nothing wrong with what Coleman said. Helmuth does act as though he is the self anointed gatekeeper of poker. I respect his game but come on the guy is arrogant, childish and could do a hell of a lot more to support and bring back online poker than he has. The UB stuff was swept under the rug as Helmuth pocketed the money after BF while Phil Ivey sat out the entire WSOP to protest Full Tilt players not getting their money. If Coleman wants to give the big mouth some of his own medicine I see nothing wrong with it, Helmuth certainly doesn’t have a problem running other people down.

    • colman is so anoing,i mean wtf..phil can be this and that but what he has done 4 poker is huge,and colman,if olivier b, didnt take him as his proegue he will probably now be in some prison just beacuse of his atitude 2 other ppl..

    • Coleman sucks. I’m so sick of his dour outlook on pretty much everything poker. I used to love the characters involved in poker and now it really is just a bunch of internet nerds with hoodies n shades. Did you listen to november 9er interviews, Jeez people have SOME sort of personality, please? Jacobsen was the best of them however, sooo glad he won, he actually showed some emotion. ANyway back to Coleman, dude sounds like such an arrogant douche hating on the poker world while crushing games. I can’t wait for his star to fall so his rants don’t have to be on the front pages. Sh*t I like the poker world. Everyone is super smart and the game is intense and thoughtful, I think it is a perfectly reasonable proffession. Is playing golf helping the world? Football? Soccer? Telemarketing? Acting in a sitcom? SH*t dude we are just trying to get by in this life grow up kid and appreciate what you got. You sound way more immature than the poker brat thats for sure.

    • both are total cunts ones good at poker only diffrence

      This

      Hellmuth is a POS for how he handled the UB situation and all of the ignorant fan boys keep supporting him. Colman may be a d bag, but at least he has some ethics and is good at poker.

    • Grow up you little attention getter. Seems you and phil have much in common.

      Jump off Olivier Busquet’s cock and use your own brain.

    • This

      Hellmuth is a POS for how he handled the UB situation and all of the ignorant fan boys keep supporting him. Colman may be a d bag, but at least he has some ethics and is good at poker.

      Im confused about shat ethics he has…

    • Please explain how?

      Well, everything coleman says is shit to my ears, hence the asshole designator..Hellmuth, a treasure, meaning a guy, a champion in poker who is ultra entertaining and a face of our sport…Whether you like him or not, whether he fucking swindled anyone or not, he’s the perfect polar opposite of coleman…Hellmuth shares every step he takes via twitter, all his thoughts, whether childish and arrogant, or thoughtfull and caring…you get it all, and can see it all, the most transparent dood there is…A big baby poop talker I love…My first ever poker experience, the experience that made me want to dump/loose thousands at this game trying to learn it, was watching dwan and hellmuth go at it on HSP….If anything, he pushed me into giving you all my money….He’s good for poker….he made me wannaplay…If I had started out listening to Coleman….?????
      Ive learned alot of what to do and not do thru hellmuth…money making skills…In my eye he;s a treasure yo

      If he was there while rip-offs were happening, i truly believe he was a innocent/ignorant player, hes;s far from a criminal

      love his big ol inflated ego too….

    • What I don’t understand is, the kid is making all this money and instead of being happy & approachable to the media it seems his goal is to alienate the poker world. To me, his recent comments come across as a rant from a spoiled little brat. You might not like PH and how he conducts himself at the tables but Phil has done more for the game than most. I’ve known who PH is for years and years,,,never heard of Dan Coleman until this year. He might have a dark side view of the game but you don’t have to be a dickhead towards the industry that gave you the opportunity to earn millions. If you’re so against the game then stop playing. Two years from now PH will still be in the media and I’ll forget at DC.

    • Well, everything coleman says is shit to my ears, hence the asshole designator..Hellmuth, a treasure, meaning a guy, a champion in poker who is ultra entertaining and a face of our sport…Whether you like him or not, whether he fucking swindled anyone or not, he’s the perfect polar opposite of coleman…Hellmuth shares every step he takes via twitter, all his thoughts, whether childish and arrogant, or thoughtfull and caring…you get it all, and can see it all, the most transparent dood there is…A big baby poop talker I love…My first ever poker experience, the experience that made me want to dump/loose thousands at this game trying to learn it, was watching dwan and hellmuth go at it on HSP….If anything, he pushed me into giving you all my money….He’s good for poker….he made me wannaplay…If I had started out listening to Coleman….?????
      Ive learned alot of what to do and not do thru hellmuth…money making skills…In my eye he;s a treasure yo

      If he was there while rip-offs were happening, i truly believe he was a innocent/ignorant player, hes;s far from a criminal

      love his big ol inflated ego too….

      Your last point is up for discussion until he decides to actually answer some questions regarding UB and his involvement. If completely innocent, I’m sure he wouldn’t have dodged for so long.

      I find his antics when a camera is on him beyond cringe worthy. I too watched televised poker back in 2008 or whenever I stumbled across it, where Phil (and others – mike the f mouth prob being the nut low) would relentlessly berate amateurs, explode and roll around on the floor after losing a flip, and generally be obnoxious at the table. Is that how we want to promote our game? If we want poker to be taken seriously as a sport, surely we need our ‘ambassadors’ to carry themselves respectfully both on and off the tables.

    • Daniel Coleman – “I was a teenage multiaccounter”

      http://f5poker.com/poker-news/2014/11/17/daniel-colman-i-was-teenage-multiaccounter-colman-confesses-teenage-indiscretion-re-clarifies/

    • UB owes me 2k.As far as I’m concerned helmuth owes me 2k.If you think he didn’t know about that company…mmmmm.

    • I’m kind of glad the dude stays out of the spotlight in mainstream media. I’m not so sure some wonder kid who puts infinite hours into the game and wins heaps and is almost unbeatable is what’s going to attract novice players and the like. Give the nobody joe schmoe’s, who come from nothing and bink, the spotlight.

      Pro poker players are terribly unobjective in my experience.

    • Who cares? I doubt I will be playing live any ways. But If I do, and I win something as big as the ONE DROP, I wouldn’t do a single interview. This game is wicked, and the nature of the game is even worst. To evaluate ones personality is a shame. Just play poker guys. I never started playing to be liked and or make new friends. I am playing to make money!IslandSeagulls

    • coleman is no angel. he himself has stuff to hide. coleman will fade out I am sure long befre phil hellmuth does.

      I do think its funny how Phil feels like he can walk up and congratulate him like hes poker royalty or something. Phil hellmuth is no ambassador for poker. Daniel Negraneau for sure class act.

    • And Hellmuth IS the gateway welcome wagon to the poker world….Its him sayin, “hey Im fancy and famous, now you are too!’

      fuckin asshole this guy

    • Coleman seems to be the current “angry young man” poster child. The question is: why is he so angry?

      because he’s a virgin, doesn’t matter how much you win, if the girls hate you you got no show

    • mrgr33n13-Its embarrassing that we have to share our profession with whores like this guy. After I win one drop, he immediately comes on stage to shake my hand in front of a camera and congratulate me. As if he’s the gatekeeper to the poker world and welcoming me inside. It is truly pathetic that a 40 year old would behave the way he does at the table, not to mention how spineless he is, just willing to take any sponsorship regardless of the company’s integrity. Hey, anything for a payday! Really makes me sad to think there’s a chance some people may look up to this charlatan. People of his attitude and character are a cancer to this world.

      “Maybe a bit too harsh, not exactly a cancer to society but it definitely doesn’t do us any good when people like him shamelessly self-promote and try and sell themselves to you. Listened to 5 minutes of that podcast and it got me upset listening to him prop himself up, and the interviewer was definitely feeding the ball to him. It brought back the bitter taste I had in my mouth when he came up on the stage after the one drop win and actually said “congratulations, welcome to the poker world kid.” Never met him apart from that but I am sure hes an overall nice guy, just really not a fan of how he conducts himself.