I F*cked Up is a PocketFives series where the game’s best tell stories of where they got it wrong. Mistakes happen every day in poker and let these players be the first to tell you it happens to everyone.
Two-time World Poker Tour Champions Club member Daniel Weinman rarely made any mistakes during his run to WPT glory in 2017. Outside of his No Limit tournament success, Weinman is an avid mixed games player and participant in the Atlanta home game scene.
In this, the premiere edition of I Fucked Up, Weinman tells us about a Pot Limit Omaha Hi-Lo hand that he could have played better…had he known what game it was.
Weinman moved to Washington, D.C. earlier this year but found himself back in Atlanta in early October. The stakes for the mixed game were $50/$100 with a $400/$800 spread limit. The game was shifting from a Seven Card Stud game to Omaha and Weinman thought it was Pot Limit Omaha instead of the Hi-Lo variant. Had he known what game it was, Weinman is likely not involved in this hand and we are left without a story.
A few limps opened the hand before the cutoff raised to $200. Weinman called on the button with 10-8-8-6, a hand with plenty of possibilities post flop in PLO, but a limited one in PLO8. The A-9-7 flop gave Weinman a wrap and the action blew up from there.
According to Weinman, all players were about $10,000 deep when the action reached the cutoff and he bet $1,200. Weinman raised to $5,000 and the big blind moved all in for $10,000. The cutoff moved in as well, for about $15,000- $20,000.
Weinman said he shared a lot of history with this player, and decided to call all-in for his stack. When he saw that both of his opponents had a set, Weinman said, “the look on my face wasn’t great.”
The trio decided to run the board twice and after bricking the first turn and river, Weinman found a low on the second runout to get a quarter of the overall pot.
While fortunate to get a rebate on the hand, Weinman admitted, “A big mistake like this can cost you tons.”
Taking it in Stride
After the hand, Weinman texted some friends of his to explain the situation. Among those players was high stakes professional and former PocketFives #1, Shaun Deeb. Weinman says Deeb knew the exact mistake Weinman made as he was explaining the story.
According to Weinman, mistakes like the one he made are common in games where PLO and PLO8 are both in the mix.
Other Mistakes In Mixed Games
In his career of playing mixed games, Weinman says he has made similar mistakes in 2-7 draw games where he has made it to the final draw before realizing the game wasn’t what he the format he had thought. That has resulted in Weinman making it to the third draw with zero equity in a hand.
There is also an incident where, as Weinman puts it, “Not at those stakes but I’ve made a decent mistake in 2-7 hand. Going into the last draw I had 77532 with four of the same suit, pitched the wrong 7 and ended up getting a four of the suit in my hand.”
Maybe PLO8 Isn’t His Game
At the same home game where his error took place, Weinman holds the record for the largest ever straddle; a number that is written on a whiteboard for all to see.
Weinman was into the game for somewhere between $10,000-$15,000, as he recalls. Upon being felted again, Weinman bought in for $20,000 more. That money went in as a button straddle and Weinman ended up losing that pot as well.
Weinman preaches that it is always important to keep your eye on the plaques in a mixed game to know what the new game is.
There is also another item to point out. For as successful as Weinman has been in 2017, even he, a former SuperNova elite on PokerStars, is capable of making a basic mistake. An expensive one.
If something similar happens while you’re playing, take solace in knowing it can happen to the best.
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