Any interest if I made a WCOOP package?
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    Originally Posted by trajan30 View Post

    Would you prefer CAD today, or wait for stars deposit to clear?

    I can wait for the deposit to clear.
     
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    Originally Posted by Drughouse Gratch View Post

    It sounds like you think too much. You gotta get some balls for tourneys man. Why are you thinking about coasting to 7th.

    I knew this was worded poorly. "Coasting" was supposed to say more than it sounds like.

    I just meant that I thought there was a good chance that even passing up this bet for all my chips, and even not accounting for actual hands I might soon get, that I could play in such a way that, barring something crazy, I could more or less keep my 2nd/3rd place chip position without much effort up until about the field whittled itself in half. Just by applying tactical low-risk pressure on the small/med stacks, some of whom were especially tight, and stepping it up especially towards the final table bubble. And avoiding the one other big stack without good cause. I didn't at all mean to suggest that I would ever passively blind myself out to 7th place. Just talking about avoiding a very possible flip which could bust you when you have plenty of time to otherwise prey on dead money from scared opponents.
    Edited By: Swerve 1 Day Ago at 09:16 PM
    Reason: we can take this to another thread if you want skillz, my bad this is going on a bit
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    Originally Posted by Swerve View Post

    I knew this was worded poorly. "Coasting" was supposed to say more than it sounds like.

    I just meant that I thought there was a good chance that even passing up this bet for all my chips, and even not accounting for actual hands I might soon get, that I could play in such a way that, barring something crazy, I could more or less keep my 2nd/3rd place chip position without much effort up until about the field whittled itself in half. Just by applying tactical low-risk pressure on the small/med stacks, some of whom were especially tight, and stepping it up especially towards the final table bubble. And avoiding the one other big stack without good cause. I didn't at all mean to suggest that I would ever passively blind myself out to 7th place. Just talking about avoiding a very possible flip which could bust you when you have plenty of time to otherwise prey on dead money from scared opponents.


    You really think a lot. Maybe add in some Xanax to your normal weed routine. Either way, sometimes in tourneys, you just gotta grab your balls and say all in
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  4. Swerve, not sure of the site you are playing on but bovada for example most of their bigger gtd nightlys are 10 min levels. So those blinds shrink up fast and being a bigger stack allows you to put the pressure on. I personally am a fan of the jam can look like you are squeezing there and get 77-1010 to call off (see it every night) I also see QK type hands getting it in there too. Flatting worst then you can either raise or jam. IMO I like the jam better but OLFO Gotskillz is a crusher so his advice is def good!
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    Originally Posted by Drughouse Gratch View Post

    Either way, sometimes in tourneys, you just gotta grab your balls and say all in

    I mean.. you're not wrong here. In my defense I did post the earlier two hands which I shoved in somewhat iffy spots. Because balls. I like balls.

    But....

     
    Originally Posted by Drughouse Gratch View Post

    You really think a lot.

    This I disagree with. Well... not the statement, but the implication that we shouldn't be thinking this much in this context. Post-mortem, now that I have presence of mind, obv I want to examine my thoughts and plays and try to identify leaks or possibly inferior thought processes.

    But also my passiveness there addresses one of the most important distinctions between the "ideal unlimited roll" poker strategy, and tournaments/very limited roll cash games (aside from ICM): "Should I take $B bet now where I am a b% favorite, if losing that bet causes me to miss out on future bets $C, $D, ... $Z, etc, where I would be a c%, d%, ..., z%, etc favorite?" Solving for various values input into that question is essentially what constitutes our fundamental tournament ideas behind why, if for instance a player shows us AK and shoves, we should always be willing to call with 55 when we have 10BB, but not when we have 1000 BB. Unless maybe we're just absolutely outclassed by every other player in the tournament, then we don't necessarily want to pass up shit. But the better player you are relative to the field, and obv the bigger stack you have relative to the blinds/other stacks, the more willing you should be to pass up smaller edges in favor of having time to take lots of future, larger, possibly obscene and/or far less risky for your own tournament life, edges.

    This is why I was passive in that particular JJ spot. But obviously this whole thing is hard to quantify, and in that example there was a pretty big pot shaping up already, 8.5 BB, more than 20% of my current stack, so the more we talk about it the more I'm like meh. Skillz response took the question more into account I think but with that stack/pot size it might make shoving nice enough to possibly disregard the question entirely. Idk. I think it's an extremely important concept and I just wish it were easier to solve and show one way or the other.
    Edited By: Swerve 1 Day Ago at 10:26 PM
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    Originally Posted by Bucaneermike View Post

    Swerve, not sure of the site you are playing on but bovada for example most of their bigger gtd nightlys are 10 min levels. So those blinds shrink up fast and being a bigger stack allows you to put the pressure on. I personally am a fan of the jam can look like you are squeezing there and get 77-1010 to call off (see it every night) I also see QK type hands getting it in there too. Flatting worst then you can either raise or jam. IMO I like the jam better but OLFO Gotskillz is a crusher so his advice is def good!

    Yeah I think 1st bolded and my realization of pot size in my last post is what sells it for me your way. 2nd bolded good point too, I was thinking that was in my favor, and that I had a big enough stack to pressure the shorties already, but I think I overestimated the long-term utility of my stack at that point simply because everyone else was so short.

    I don't think 77 calls there though ftr (talking about the big stack but I'm just guessing) Maybe 88+ given my recollection of the general tournament environment since I played it a lot. TT almost for sure. But idk. Against an unknown late in a tourney where people are playing relatively tight, I'm not sure I like making big assumptions like that for all my chips without more to go on. Meaning I assumed I'd "prob be 'flipping'" if called with fairly equal but small chances of being much better or much worse off.
    Edited By: Swerve 1 Day Ago at 10:30 PM
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  7. Edited By: trajan30 1 Day Ago at 12:07 AM
     
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