1. This guy up bet every time he opened, 4 1/2 or 5x the blinds, he 3bet shoved on me a few times, I thought I was good here, was this a really shitty call? Should I have just folded preflop? Thanks in advance.



    Game ID: 1023224970 200/400 OSS3 BIG10 - $40,000 GTD, Table 22 (Hold'em)
    Seat 1 is the button
    Seat 1: FishTacos7 (4810).
    Seat 2: chimpsrus (8425).
    Seat 4: Saeedmaz (14859).
    Seat 5: MyHouseSon! (14430).
    Seat 6: FindTheTruth (11358).
    Seat 7: lokkey (12041).
    Seat 8: Top_Prophet (15026).
    Seat 9: KingsCounty (9466).
    Player chimpsrus ante (50)
    Player Saeedmaz ante (50)
    Player MyHouseSon! ante (50)
    Player FindTheTruth ante (50)
    Player lokkey ante (50)
    Player Top_Prophet ante (50)
    Player KingsCounty ante (50)
    Player FishTacos7 ante (50)
    Player chimpsrus has small blind (200)
    Player Saeedmaz has big blind (400)
    Player chimpsrus received a card.
    Player chimpsrus received a card.
    Player Saeedmaz received a card.
    Player Saeedmaz received a card.
    Player MyHouseSon! received a card.
    Player MyHouseSon! received a card.
    Player FindTheTruth received a card.
    Player FindTheTruth received a card.
    Player lokkey received a card.
    Player lokkey received a card.
    Player Top_Prophet received a card.
    Player Top_Prophet received a card.
    Player KingsCounty received card: [Jd]
    Player KingsCounty received card: [10c]
    Player FishTacos7 received a card.
    Player FishTacos7 received a card.
    Player MyHouseSon! folds
    Player FindTheTruth folds
    Player lokkey folds
    Player Top_Prophet calls (400)
    Player KingsCounty calls (400)
    Player FishTacos7 folds
    Player chimpsrus calls (200)
    Player Saeedmaz checks
    *** FLOP ***: [Jc 3d 8c]
    Player chimpsrus checks
    Player Saeedmaz allin (14409)
    Player Top_Prophet folds
    Player KingsCounty allin (9016)
    Player chimpsrus folds
    Uncalled bet (5393) returned to Saeedmaz
    *** TURN ***: [Jc 3d 8c] [Qs]
    *** RIVER ***: [Jc 3d 8c Qs] [3c]
    ------ Summary ------
    Pot: 20032. Rake 0
    Board: [Jc 3d 8c Qs 3c]
    Player FishTacos7 does not show cards.Bets: 50. Collects: 0. Loses: 50.
    Player chimpsrus does not show cards.Bets: 450. Collects: 0. Loses: 450.
    *Player Saeedmaz shows: Two pairs. Js and 3s (kicker A) [Ad Js]. Bets: 9466. Collects: 20032. Wins: 10566.
    Player MyHouseSon! does not show cards.Bets: 50. Collects: 0. Loses: 50.
    Player FindTheTruth does not show cards.Bets: 50. Collects: 0. Loses: 50.
    Player lokkey does not show cards.Bets: 50. Collects: 0. Loses: 50.
    Player Top_Prophet does not show cards.Bets: 450. Collects: 0. Loses: 450.
    Player KingsCounty shows: Two pairs. Js and 3s [Jd 10c]. Bets: 9466. Collects: 0. Loses: 9466.
    Game ended at: 2017/10/4 20:50:43
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  2. Fold pre

    Edit: you have a reshove stack, use it. If I somehow misclicked and was in this spot, I would fold.

    Edit 2: why on earth are you over limping? I originally that dude minrasised....you have JToff....muck that shit bro
    Edited By: RUST1D Oct 5th, 2017 at 03:52 AM
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  3. Agree with RUST1D that this is a pre-flop fold. Your stack depth is not one that can withstand any unnecessary bleeding. There are a lot of things that could go wrong here, such as someone behind you raising with a superior hand, which is quite likely. At a minimum your overlimp entices aggressive players behind you to isolate you and the initial limper.

    As played stacking off here is quite bad. What hands do you beat that don't at a minimum have a lot of equity against you? You have to figure that the worst hand villain has are some combo draws and the occasionally poorly played 99/TT. But there isn't much air to this open jam. I suggest you run some equities in FlopZilla on how your hand fairs against the assumed range of villain on that flop. Please report back with your equities. Also, were you running a HUD because those stats would be useful as well?
    Edited By: negrealanu Oct 5th, 2017 at 07:31 PM
     
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  4.  
    Originally Posted by snappanek View Post

    This guy up bet every time he opened, 4 1/2 or 5x the blinds, he 3bet shoved on me a few times, I thought I was good here, was this a really shitty call? Should I have just folded preflop? Thanks in advance.

    It's either an open to 1050-1100 or a fold. Fold preferred here - you don't want to commit 11% of your stack on JTo with button and blinds to act behind AFTER the hijack limp, who could be doing it with a big hand. You don't want to call in case the hijack limped with KJ/QJ or one of the blinds checked that kind of holding. Too much risk with a very marginal hand.
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  5. Thnx guys, I figured it was terrible play, I was playing at a friends house on an old laptop so I wasnt running PT. I never heard of flopzilla till now, I just downloaded it, when I figure out how to use it It I will post the equities. I thought maybe he had a weak jack,(weaker than mine) up n down or a gut shot.
    Edited By: snappanek Oct 6th, 2017 at 03:53 AM
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  6. Flopzilla is a very powerful tool and it is worth every dime. Check out Evan Jarvis - Gripsed - on Youtube as he has a good primer for getting started with the tool. I would love to hear what you come up with. I'm interested to know how much equity you have after running this simulation.
     
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