1. Hi all,
    New to the forum and was wondering if you can give me some insight what you think the best play is in this spot! (any advice is well received)
    So playing the $109 bounty builder series 8 max> Currently 10 off the money.

    Poker Stars, $100 Buy-in (1,000/2,000 blinds, 250 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 8 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: 80,252 (40.1 bb)
    BB: 84,040 (42 bb)
    UTG+2: 16,614 (8.3 bb)
    MP1: 127,389 (63.7 bb)
    MP2: 51,859 (25.9 bb)
    MP3: 144,303 (72.2 bb)
    Hero (CO): 77,374 (38.7 bb)
    BTN: 51,341 (25.7 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is CO with 9s 9h
    3 folds, MP3 raises to 5,000, Hero raises to 13,967, BTN folds, SB calls 12,967, BB folds, MP3 calls 8,967

    Flop: (45,901) Kh 4c 7h (3 players)
    SB checks, MP3 checks, Hero bets 17,901, SB calls 17,901, MP3 folds

    Turn: (81,703) 2h (2 players)
    SB checks, Hero checks

    River: (81,703) 3s (2 players)
    SB bets 48,134 and is all-in, Hero folds

    Results: 81,703 pot
    Final Board: Kh 4c 7h 2h 3s
    SB mucked and won 81,703 (49,585 net)
    Hero mucked 9s 9h and lost (-32,118 net

    Over and 80 hand sample Villian has a vpip of 19 and prf of 9.
    I just think when I 3bet and he flats from BB and check calls flop, don't really know what to put him on here! Do you think I should continue on the turn and shove river??
    You think villian is shoving for value or bluffing here?
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  2. any time players are calling and not betting my first instinct is to put them on a draw. so here we have a flush draw and a straight draw on the flop with the flush draw the most likely either way if he has 56 or the flush they both hit I doubt if he flopped a king he wouldn't bet unless he slow played a set of them. I think its a clear fold though.
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  3. Yeah I totally agree with what your saying, was just confused with what he could possibly calling with after a 4bet. What do you think about my bet sizes? Thanks for the reply!
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  4. Just a few quick observations:

    At stack size 40x (approx), I'd prefer our 3bet to be more circa 2.5x - (you've as good as made it 3.5x). This means that we lose less chips should we fold to any 4bet aggro, but more importantly the pot is going to be smaller when we get flatted and 'miss', meaning we'll be 'saving' chips when we bet post flop into smaller pots.

    19/9 over 80 hands is not 'competent' player stats - (This is not set in stone, but 'fishy type' would be in my mind for sure).

    Alway have something like prolabs or ss open during your session to 'quickly' cut and paste his user name - You'll then see immediately what sort of level they are on.

    Until proven otherwise, I'd treat any 'Locked Stats' as probable good regs.

    Villain cold calls in SB for 'nearly' 20% of his starting stack?

    KK+ now in his 'possible' flatting range (with the original opener still to act...) He could be 'hoping' to get squeezed....

    TT-QQ - High % of the time might just jam from the SB for the dead money and decent FE. Some more timid 'bad' villains might flat (even for nearly 20% of their starting stack), so TT-QQ cannot be entirely dismissed.

    (Someone mentioned 56s in a previous reply, but I'd say there's close to ZERO chance of even a bad villain flatting that in the SB here for nearly 20% of their stack).

    Any AK would probably squeeze from the SB (nearly 30% dead money pickup with FE alone). NOT 'risk' just flatting 'hoping' to get squeezed by the original raiser in case they don't and they then miss the flop.

    The only 'realistic' suited hearts that our SB villain could have here are - AQs.

    However, given his 'fishy' looking 19/9 HUD stats over 80 hands, we cannot entirely rule out:

    Every suited Ace (except for AKs, reason mentioned above). AQo KQs/KQo, TJs.

    He really 'shouldn't' have any 22-99.

    Think your flop c bet sizing (in relation to this bigger pot) was fine.

    (We've now contributed 16x from our 39x starting stack).

    Our Turn X line seems absolutely fine.

    Villain polar jams the river?

    (We do still beat a small amount of stuff that he 'could' be doing this with, AQo 66-88 A7s A4s TJs, but his better stuff far outweighs this).

    Pretty easy fold for us.


    + 3
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  5. KQs or KQo is deff in his range here. Makes sence after a check on the turn. Villain checking the turn leads me to believe he didnt hit the flush here. U re raised pre and he called so if he had hit the flush why wld he not bet for value here unles hes super nitty
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